Loch Garten osprey diary

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EJ's fine, but......

I am sorry to have to report that it looks like we have almost certainly lost Nethy, our female chick from last year.

We received an incomplete data set two weeks ago, giving Nethy’s position next to a river in a remote part the West African country of Guinea Bissau.  It showed no movement, but the timings of the two fixes we had, on each of three days, were the same, at 8 am and again at 4 pm, so we thought that maybe she was returning to roost in the same spot, a favourite tree perhaps. 

The data set though, was incomplete – with so few fixes, there was little to report.  The satellite might not have picked up Nethy’s signal very effectively.  She could have been perched in a shady tree for example, effectively shielding her somewhat from any satellite pass.

This is what we hoped but we needed better data to be able to draw any firmer conclusions.  On Monday this week, we received the latest and more complete data (up to 20 March) and it revealed that the signal coordinates were coming from the same place between 11 and 20 March.  No movement from her for two weeks now would appear to say it all, I am afraid. 

We can tell that the battery voltage is now very low, presumably not in sunlight and therefore not being re-charged.  There is just an outside chance that her tag might have fallen off, but we will never know for sure.  Until such time, as she returns to Scotland and is identified from her leg rings, the best we can say is Nethy is missing in action, presumed dead.

This is very sad news indeed, and given the loss of first Deshar and now Nethy, it brings into sharp focus, just how precious each and every young osprey to be reared in Scotland in any year, is to the future of the Scottish osprey population. 

Every year we bid farewell to our departing ospreys, as they head off on migration to Africa, until now, never quite knowing what becomes of them, but the tracking project has at least enabled us to find out, the albeit sad news, that many don’t make it, but we are learning a bit more all the time.  The BTO reckon that 40% of ospreys die in their first year

As we enter a new season at Loch Garten - the Osprey Centre opened yesterday(!) with EJ back awaiting a mate, lets hope we have a successful season ahead.

I have not told the Osprey team yet.  I’m off to do that right now.

Posted by richard thaxton at 10:25 on 2 April 2009.  128 comments

Comments

Sandra
Posted on Thursday, 2 April 2009 at 10:38

Oh  Richard I truly hope that her tag has fallen off and that she is not presumed dead. i typing this with a big lump in my throat, and I am feeling so sad now.

Carol
Posted on Thursday, 2 April 2009 at 10:44

My hope is that Roy had a bad batch of cotton or his sewing was a little off this year and the tags have fallen off for Logie, Deshar, Glen and now Nethy! We can only hope. So many ospreys die each year through many causes so to lose four is not  unusual as Richard says but EJ is there and ready and waiting. Lets hope she finds herself a younger male and raises many healthy chicks. Bets on Henry returning?

Valerie
Posted on Thursday, 2 April 2009 at 10:50

Oh Richard that is just so sad {{hugs}} to everyone at LG , a vain hope that she will return and that it was a malfuntion what a day that will be if she does .  I cant believe how fond we get of these birds so I am in tears feeling like I have lost a friend , she has kept us going with her journeys during the winter and she was just doing so well .  Nethy we wont forget you or Deshar or Wee Yin , your Mum is back home and will bring more babies into this world to hopefully follow in your footsteps but hopefully they and you will return to LG .

ChloeB
Posted on Thursday, 2 April 2009 at 11:01
I was so sorry to hear this sad news Richard, you must all be devastated. I am clinging to the vain hope that she has lost her tag.
Burnie
Posted on Thursday, 2 April 2009 at 11:04
Richard and the team, that girl was such I fighter, I won't believe she is no more. She probably worked out how to remove the harness, or got another bird to do it for her. Love and hugs to you all.
Tiger
Posted on Thursday, 2 April 2009 at 11:04
This is such sad news. However, Nethy, Deshar and the Wee Yin gave so much pleasure to so many people in your short lives.
Geoff
Posted on Thursday, 2 April 2009 at 11:13

All we can do is hope the tag has dropped off. Nethy is (was? - let's hope not) a strong bird who has obviously been doing well around the rivers in west Africa, so surely there is hope. Even if the worst is eventually confirmed the project has still been a huge success in terms of the knowledge gained that can be used to support future Osprey generations; and in terms of 'spreading the word' about the fantastic work of the LG team and the RSPB in general (just look at the number of replies to the last blog!). Richard & Co - thank you all once again and good luck for the coming season.

Ali
Posted on Thursday, 2 April 2009 at 11:34

Oh no.  That is so sad.  We can all hope that her tag has fallen off but maybe we are just being shown what really happens in the real world to ospreys.  It is a privilege to have been part of this, and we are all learning so much from it, albeit such sad facts.  My heart goes out of everyone at LG and all the bloggers who must all be feeling the terrible loss after following Nethy for so long.  But we can but hope that it has only fallen off and she will be back one day.

Valc
Posted on Thursday, 2 April 2009 at 11:41

So very, very sad!  She appeared to be doing so well.  We were so sure she would be all right. Let us hope that the tracking device has fallen off!  It will be a long wait to find out!  It is very difficult to find words, right now!  I am sure we are all feeling as bad as each other.  

Let us hope a male osprey arrives  soon to produce a new brood for EJ.

 

REPLY: Indeed Valc, it's sad news, but at a time of great optimism for the season ahead.  -  Richard

Joffan
Posted on Thursday, 2 April 2009 at 11:51
So sorry to hear that. An inspiring journey, all the same, and I hope we'll be able to follow some new chicks to Africa and back again this year.
Ed Friday
Posted on Thursday, 2 April 2009 at 11:51

very sad if true.  Fingers crossed for next year but I guess it's just a sad fact we have to accept.  Looks like Saturday is the day we'll first visit LG but I saw my 1st Osprey of the season from the car on Tuesday  on the way back from a pupil exam in Elgin.  It was just about in Aberdeenshire with a large twig/small branch in it's beak.  I won't say exactly which road I was on as nest might be nearby but it was great to see it randomly.  Life goes on I suppose and it's time to focus on the birds still with us that we can help.

P3 Newark
Posted on Thursday, 2 April 2009 at 12:00
This year I have prepared my class for the raw side of nature but I didn't expect to have to deal with such deep issues quite so soon. Let's hope our girl lost her tracker somewhere :}
Sue Stephen
Posted on Thursday, 2 April 2009 at 12:00

The highs and lows! So high when EJ arrived back safe and sound. Now the sad news that Nethy may have suffered a misfortune. Fingers crossed the tracking device has somehow become detached and that she may in the future return to LG.  Excited about the coming nesting though and look forward to the arrival of a mate for EJ.

Suzyblu
Posted on Thursday, 2 April 2009 at 12:03

Just logged on and found out the terrible news! How sad, I am still hoping like everyone that it is just her tag that has fallen off.  So many of us would not be here if it wasn't for getting involved in Nethy and Deshar last year when they were tagged and following their progress.   I have made many friends over the winter on the Loch Garten Bloggers site and I have learned such a lot on all sorts of subjects from people who know much more than me.  Thank you Nethy and Deshar.  I (like many others) will be glued to the website over the summer months hoping for a happy out come for EJ and her mate.  I think you all do a marvellous job at Loch Garten please pass on my best wishes to your team, thank you and keep up the good work, you are appreciated.

Carrie
Posted on Thursday, 2 April 2009 at 12:09

Nothing much I can add to the comments, I am devastated at this sad news.

If only there was someone out there who could go and check the spot. I feel for you all at LG and also for all school kids they will be so upset.

REPLY: Regarding the school children of Nethy Primary School, the timing of this news is unfortunate as they are Easter break just now.  One of us will go to school mid April when they are back and explain what has happened, and that sadly these things happen in nature.  -  Richard.

 

Glynis H
Posted on Thursday, 2 April 2009 at 12:15

Sorry to hear the news about Nethy, lets hope it is the tracking device & not the end of our girl. best wishes to all the LG team & I hope a mate arrives soon foe EJ.

Gary
Posted on Thursday, 2 April 2009 at 12:24

Richard and the Team, I am so sorry to hear the news. Terrible. I would like to think the best but can't at the moment.

Suzyblu (above) has said it all much more eloquently than I can about why we follow these birds. They touch you in ways I did not think was possible for a bird.

Although the tracking of the chicks has been much more traumatic than I thought, I wouldn't want to be without it now.

Still, looking forward, we are all cheering EJ on and whoever turns up for her. Then, more "emotional torture" while we watch (hopefully) the chicks.

Keep up the great work LG Team, we are with you all the way!!

Richard-do you know of any osprey turning up when thought dead, after no signals from the tracker, or is this too new a project.

 

REPLY:  Yes, too new a project.  Richard

Mitch
Posted on Thursday, 2 April 2009 at 12:48

Well I think the comments from everyone say it all, how these birds have captured the imagination, not to mention the hearts of everyone who has followed their stories thus far. It seems unfair that all of EJ's chicks should be in that 40% lost in the first year, if indeed that is the case. However I have been watching her sitting on the nest today in the sunshine and hope to see a new brood very soon.  I have also been watching the nest at Loch Lowes, the female there is over 20 years old so it goes to show that it is possible for them to live a long and full life, just luck of the draw I guess. Fingers crossed that Nethy's tag is just lost and that in a couple of years time there will be a joyful homecoming. I'm sure I and many others are hoping for that and will continue to watch events as they unfold at Loch Garten.

busterlab
Posted on Thursday, 2 April 2009 at 12:50

I'm gutted. Don't know what else to say, except that perhaps if Logie re-appears this year after a transmitter failure then there's a chance that Nethy is still alive...I'll cling to that for now

WEE JEANNIE
Posted on Thursday, 2 April 2009 at 12:50

Devastated to hear the news about Nethy. Like everyone else I hope it's just the tag falling off- she's done so well so far, we all thought if any osprey could  survive the first year it would be Nethy.

Hope she surprises us by arriving back in Scotland in a year or two.

Hopes now pinned on EJ- a terrific 'mum', hope she gets an equally terrific mate this time!

Mike
Posted on Thursday, 2 April 2009 at 12:52

If anyone doubted the interest in this site and the tracking project then these comments must dispell any doubts. Just look at the number of comments in just TWO hours. As with 'Logie' only time will tell if a technical failure, or in this instance, the loss of the unit, is the cause.  Richard says the project is too new BUT lets hope this year is the one in which it does happen.  Mike

Sheila
Posted on Thursday, 2 April 2009 at 12:54

This is the last news I expected - I had come to believe Nethy was invincible.  Thank you for breaking the news to us so swiftly, Richard, and my thoughts are with you all.  Deshar and Nethy opened my eyes to the Osprey world, and I'm a huge follower.  But perhaps now a more realistic follower.  But - as I type this EJ is sitting on her nest looking magnificent, and we look forward to a new season with all its highs and lows.  Thank you for everything that you do.

anny
Posted on Thursday, 2 April 2009 at 12:58
What a terrible set back Richard. You must all be quite despondent. However it may just be that she has eaten so much fish that the straps couldn't take the strain and broke! We can only wait and hope as with Logie.
Peterc
Posted on Thursday, 2 April 2009 at 13:12

What dreadful news. I am devastated by it.

Peter

John Harwood
Posted on Thursday, 2 April 2009 at 13:22

Gutted by this, that's all I can say on the subject at the moment. Hope we get some good news from the nest soon, EJ needs a mate and fast

 

REPLY: Plenty of time yet John, for a male to show.  Good high pressure here today, arrival weather if ever I saw some.  A male by Monday for sure I reckon.

Richard

joanlith
Posted on Thursday, 2 April 2009 at 13:23

No no, not again. Deep down I have been thinking how great it would be if Deshar turned up after all this year minus his sattellite tag  but now  it would be too much to ask for them both to have just been de-tagged somehow. Oh what sad news indeed if Nethy HAS been lost.

mozziecat
Posted on Thursday, 2 April 2009 at 13:24

I cannot add any more.  So very sad!  Thank you for letting us know so quickly.  The spirit can't help hoping but also has to be realistic.  Nethy and her family have given such a lot of pleasure and shared emotions to so many people.  This news is very sad but I wouldn't have missed all the ups and downs and the blogging for anything.  And we're all about to go again!!

Suzyblu
Posted on Thursday, 2 April 2009 at 13:30
That's a lovely comment anny, I'll hold onto that picture at this sad time it would be lovely if it were truex
Scoops
Posted on Thursday, 2 April 2009 at 13:38

To all the staff at Loch Garten my sincere commiserations for the very real possibility that Nethy may be deceased.  On reading your news, I could not prevent the tears.  Not only is there very real sadness for the work you have all put in protecting her and her siblings, but also for the determination and strength of character she had to survive the gruelling journey. For the moment I will cling to my 10% hope that the harness has somehow fallen off.  My very best wishes to you all.

joelann
Posted on Thursday, 2 April 2009 at 13:40

Like everyone else I am gutted and also, like everyone else, I hope that the problem is with the tag and not Nethy and she is still flying free.Lets all look forward to this year and success to E.J. and whoevever her mate will be in rearing a healthy brood this season.

Pia
Posted on Thursday, 2 April 2009 at 14:10
Thanks for the update Richard, I'm so sorry to hear. I do hope she is fine and as you said: her tag might have fallen off. As joelann said above: Lets all look forward to this year.
Maisie
Posted on Thursday, 2 April 2009 at 14:19
Really sad news......commiserations to all the team.Does anybody know how long ospreys breed for?And how old EJ is? If a male didn't turn up would she go looking, or head south early?
Brenda H
Posted on Thursday, 2 April 2009 at 14:21
I can't find any more to add to previous comments and I too hope and pray that anny's explanation is the answer. Any alternative I just would rather not think about. Our sympathy to you Richard and the LG team.
ALAN PETRIE
Posted on Thursday, 2 April 2009 at 14:29
Just come back from Rutland Water where I saw the resident ospreys 5N and O8. Logged in and read the terrible news regarding Nethy. Like everyone else I hope the harness has broken but I am afraid we have to be realistic. Our hopes now lie with EJ and her mate. Lets enjoy and look forward to a successful breeding season.
Jacxxx
Posted on Thursday, 2 April 2009 at 14:30
Richard Thank You for the update even with such worrying news. Lets hope that the tag has fallen off and its not what we all fear as the worst. You all work so hard and tirelessly keep us updated with the progress of all the Osprey chicks. EJ is back and will hopefully have a mate very soon. Here's to another year of hoping and waiting and successful breeding. You lot there are FANTASTIC!!!!!!!!!
wendymac
Posted on Thursday, 2 April 2009 at 14:39
just logged on to this terrible news. dont know what to say that hasnt already been said. lets just hope against hope that it is a problem with the tag and not with nethy. thank you for letting us know.
Sally-A
Posted on Thursday, 2 April 2009 at 14:49
Richard, I just can't believe it! Nethy was such a strong bird and seemed to have settled down in an area she had got to know relatively well. Like the others, I do hope it is simply a case of a lost tag. You too, and the team must feel a great sense of possible loss. I see her picture each day when I start my computer, so each time I see her I shall will her to be alive!! However, EJ is back to give us new expectation and hopefully her mate will arrive very soon, and a healthy brood will follow.
Margobird
Posted on Thursday, 2 April 2009 at 15:20
So sad to hear this news and maybe just maybe her tag has come off. I really thought Nethy was a true survivor but it brings it home when you say 40% of ospreys do not make it through the first year. If she has really gone I would like to think she is with Deshar who broke all our hearts when he didn't make it. I know how devastated you must all feel, I send my love to you alll.
Kathy J
Posted on Thursday, 2 April 2009 at 15:44
I don't know what to day. This is just so sad. :-(
KatieM
Posted on Thursday, 2 April 2009 at 15:47
Also sorry to hear the news of Nethy but am thankful for the enthralling hours she (and her family) have provided us with. Welcome back to EJ and here's to another exciting season at Loch Garten. All the best to this years team.
Jayne Russell
Posted on Thursday, 2 April 2009 at 16:07
Devastating news , just devastating, my thoughts are with you all at Loch Garten at the moment, I just can't type anymore - Poor Poor Nethy
Libs
Posted on Thursday, 2 April 2009 at 16:15
I am sorry about Nethy and just when we were all thinking she would be ok. Anyway I am hoping she has just houdinied her tracking device and is still fishing happily. Why do so many young osprey die? She could certainly fish - could she have been poisoned or shot or been in a fight. Are there any preditors there who attack inexperienced birds? Perhaps it is all guesswork. Here's hoping EJs male will arrive soon - maybe a new one, who will bring in lots of fish for the chicks so we don't have a repeat of last year.
Chrissy Beahan
Posted on Thursday, 2 April 2009 at 16:20
I don't have words,, only hope,, I think everything has been said,, So sorry you have to give the team this news Richard, thank you for all yours and the teams hard work,,Thank you again,,, Chrissy XX
BarbaraAnne
Posted on Thursday, 2 April 2009 at 16:39
I too am gutted at the sad news. It just goes to show how very important the tracking tags are and Roy's work.. The fact that both last years LG siblings are now lost shows just how important the conservation work is and how they need our support..These wonderful birds have so many obstacles stacked aginst them. Their survival depends on so many factors..I wonder how Nethy was killed, was she predated by an animal or human ???? Was she shot? poisoned? We know that Ospreys are seen by some Africans as competition for the fish, or she could have got caught in a net??? Anyway lets look forward to a good breeding season at LG and L-O-Lowes... As there was a suspicion that Deshar died because of a genetic imprint from Norway that led his radar to guide him further west than he ought to have been on migration, do you think that if EJ finds another new mate who is from further west then the sprogs will have a better chance of survival this year ?????
John Harwood
Posted on Thursday, 2 April 2009 at 17:17
How did the team take the news Richard, sometimes it's best not to know when things like this happen but I suppose if the aim is to find out more about the species then you have to take the good witht he bad. It's just a shame that we have lost all 3 chicks from last year. Hopefully this year will bring better luck
Susan Warne
Posted on Thursday, 2 April 2009 at 17:36
Just gutted, following Nethy's progress was a joy over the winter months & I just hoe hope & pray her tag has fallen off. Maybe Dennis left a loose thread & she pulled it & the whole harness fell off. Our thoughts are with you Richard and the team at LG. Spring is here & that means new life at LG something to look forward to.
patriciat
Posted on Thursday, 2 April 2009 at 17:36
Couldn't log in yesterday adn have just read the dreadful news about Nethy. Tears have been shed. Can hardly take it in - my money was on her as a survivor. I echo what all the others have said. Much sympathy to all of you at LG who do such wonderful work and put so much love and devotion into it. Lets cling to the faint hope that the 'big girl' has just lost her tag.
helenB
Posted on Thursday, 2 April 2009 at 17:41

Like others before me i can't believe it, she seemed  to be so strong, Richard is there anyone out there who can go and locate the tracker and possibly discover the cause? it just goes to show that only the very strongest make it back to Loch Garten. what a strong bird EJ must be, lets hope this years brood (when they arrive) do better. :(

 

REPLY: Just not practical to go looking. -  Richard

quietwoman
Posted on Thursday, 2 April 2009 at 17:52
I'm so sorry for you all at LG. I'm hoping that Nethy has just 'lost' her tracker and that she could still turn up somewhere in Scotland (or anywhere). You have all worked so hard at the centre and keeping us all well informed of Nethy's travels, you must all feel so sad. Looking forward to a trip to LG and I'm delighted that EJ looks so well.
Soosin
Posted on Thursday, 2 April 2009 at 17:55
c'est la vie, - thought if any, she was the born survivor. Her antics on the nest last year made you think she wasn't to be messed with and would cope with the trials and tribulations that may come her way and that she would have been one of the few who actually survive through the first year and return.
Barbara Jean
Posted on Thursday, 2 April 2009 at 17:56
I just read the terrible news!. She became a part of so many people thoughts. My sympathy for all the people at LG I am sure you are all heartsick. I will keep a ray of hope that her tag fell off. Let's hope this year EJ's chicks have a better outcome.
Soosin
Posted on Thursday, 2 April 2009 at 18:04
lets hope nature was her downfall and not human again
JenW
Posted on Thursday, 2 April 2009 at 18:15
It's devastating news, coming at a time when she seemed so safe and settled, and her chances of survival growing week by week. It makes me realise just how miraculous it is that we have any ospreys at all. Thank you, Richard for everything you have done to keep our interest for so long.
CliveT
Posted on Thursday, 2 April 2009 at 18:28
Oh Dear I feel quite sick certainly saddened at the news of the possible loss of Nethy - she seemed to be doing ever so well too I waas on Google this morning and her tracks were amazing. I know they a prone to be shot during their migration but one never thinks it will happen to ours. We can only hope and prey that she is free of her tracker and will return to Scotland in a few years time. My sincere condolences to the team at LG A sad but hopeful CliveT
ChristineI
Posted on Thursday, 2 April 2009 at 20:50
I can't believe what I have just read, this is devastating news. I will have to hope that its just a glitch and the tag has fallen off and she will return in 3 years time and surprise us all.
Sadlybrokeboy
Posted on Thursday, 2 April 2009 at 21:24

Richard - thanks for letting us know the seemingly sad news :(

Let's hope it has fallen off and not something worse. One question, is it something that would ever be followed up? Do you have contacts out that way that could go and have a look? Or is that not practical?

Many thanks and all the best to the team!

Matt

 

REPLY: Just not practical Matt.   -  Richard

ChloeB
Posted on Thursday, 2 April 2009 at 21:48
On a more positive note, I would like to wish you all at Loch Garten a happy and productive 2009. I look forward to visiting later in the year when hopefully there will be three (?) well fed and healthy chicks in the nest.
Lesley Gadsden
Posted on Thursday, 2 April 2009 at 21:52
Have just logged on after a day of internet problems. Really feel devastated to hear the sad news. Can't believe that anything could have happened to Nethy once she was at her wintering grounds. I think everyone would normally expect the worse to happen whilst on migration as with dear Deshar. Richard, as much as I hate to ask this - what type of things could happen to an osprey who had safely reached warmer climes and seemed to be thriving?
laineyc
Posted on Thursday, 2 April 2009 at 22:42

I so hope for everyone up at LG that Nethy's tag has just fallen off and she appears in years to come. I think that's what I'll hold onto. Sometimes you wonder if it's worth knowing what happens after they migrate. At least EJ is back and here's to another successful season this year. Let's keep all the positive thoughts guys.

Chris
Posted on Thursday, 2 April 2009 at 23:14

I am so so sorry to hear of this dreadful news, but something inside me says we will be surprised by Nethys reappearance in the next few years. Technology is wonderful but there is always the chance that the satellite has fallen off. Who would be the greatest predator of ospreys, Richard. Could man do this or what other reason could there be? I really dont want to write her off just yet. The ups and downs of the osprey season has started very early!

Lorraine
Posted on Friday, 3 April 2009 at 0:46
I am going to believe Nethy is ok and that she has lost her satallite tag somehow. She may suprise us yet!
Wattle15
Posted on Friday, 3 April 2009 at 2:30
Oh, what sad news, Richard! Thank you so much for telling us as soon as you did. My heart goes out to you and al at LG, after all the emotional Investment you had in Nethy. We bloggers had deep emotional investment too, but to be so hands-on with Nethy and then lose her must be awful. We must remember that, in Africa, our ospreys can be prey, as well as predators. In that case, her end, i it came, would most likely have been swift. I have to admit I find her loss, although very sad, easier to bear than that of poor Deshar. The thought of him flying on and on and on into nothing, all alone with his fear, still haunts me. EJ is back, looking fit and healthy, and impatient for a mate to return. I wish her well this breeding season, with a good provider for a mate, to raise the likelyhood of successfully raising this years brood. {{{Hugs}}} to all at LG.
Sandy
Posted on Friday, 3 April 2009 at 6:56
EJ looks so lonely there on her nest, I wish she could have a mate soon to keep her company. She keeps tidying up her nest. Sandy.
Maisie
Posted on Friday, 3 April 2009 at 7:44
EJ looks fantastic this morning with the low sun shining on her. She does look as though she is scanning the skies with an expression of 'where is he? He's late again!!'
lynda
Posted on Friday, 3 April 2009 at 9:18

I'm so sad for all your team, but will cling to the hope that the tag has fallen off and our feisty Nethy is still out there eating loads of fish.  She brought a lot of joy to a great many people and we must thank her for that.

Sixy
Posted on Friday, 3 April 2009 at 9:44

I refuse to believe that Nethy is no longer with us.  She is too intelligent.  She has probably got rid of that 'tag thing'.  I think we should think positive and expect to see her back at some time in the future.  To me, she will be messing about on the Gambia!

Welcome back EJ.  She looks splendid.  Don't you feel like kissing her, she is so clever.

Sheila
Posted on Friday, 3 April 2009 at 10:26
I'm with you, Wattle15, I'm still haunted by Deshar. I realise I don't know anything about the predators of Osprey in Africa - had foolishly assumed all would now be well. I love those bits of great humour that pop up every now and again in the blog, it makes our loss of Nethy easier to bear thinking of her shrugging 'that dratted harness' off! But, our thoughts are with you at Loch Garten. Here's hoping for a mate for EJ soon - she looks very "Home Alone" at the moment!
cmacblah
Posted on Friday, 3 April 2009 at 11:46

I've been reading the osprey diaries since about 2005. Lots of ups and downs in that time. I was gutted to hear about first Deshar and now Nethy. They had an amazing journey. I'm really happy EJ's back and am looking forward to another seasons of ups and downs and excitements!

Tiger
Posted on Friday, 3 April 2009 at 12:04
In their short lives Nethy, Deshar and the Wee Yin did an enormous amount for this an other forums about ospreys. Their lives were short but not in vain. They contributed a lot to our knowledge of ospreys and recruited a whole new set of fans. They will leave a lasting legacy which will no doubt help ospreys in the future. Maybe we could all co-operate to mark their passing in some small way.
Gary
Posted on Friday, 3 April 2009 at 13:39
Nice to read all the comments from everyone. Just shows the effect these birds have on our lives. GO EJ. Hope she gets her partner soon. She looks ready!
M G
Posted on Friday, 3 April 2009 at 13:47
I hope she has just lost her tag she was (is) a big strong bird we all watched her grow and a fine fiesty female she turned out to be I just hope Nethy has shed the tag and is fishing away in Gambia and will return to us in a couple of years Time will tell won't it. The highs and Lows of watching these birds you would think they were our own babies.
BrianEE
Posted on Friday, 3 April 2009 at 15:01
I guess being a young osprey on first migration is like being a rookie pilot in a fighter squadron. During the '39-'45 stramash, they reckoned that a pilot who survived his first 5 missions had a good chance of getting through the remaining 35. See how confidently Beatrice, Morven and Nimrod are handling their migrations ... they must have had that rub of the green the first time out. I too, though, cling to the hope that she simply burst the seams, or "houdinied" her way out, of her harness !
Karen
Posted on Friday, 3 April 2009 at 15:05
This is just so sad, I feel gutted. My mum and I were addicts watching EJ raise her 3 chicks last year - Nethy, Deshar and the Wee Yin. EJ was such a wonderful mum, I'm just glad EJ doesn't know. But lets be positive - we don't know for sure, so lets keep hoping. Nethy was a fighter and if any bird could hold their own she could so there is a chance this is a tagging device failure and we do see Nethy in a couple of years.
Joyce.P
Posted on Friday, 3 April 2009 at 15:15
Oh gosh, all three chicks lost from last year, it's heartbreaking. On a positive note, what an education we've all had here on this blog and on Google Earth even if all we have learned is the hardships and cruelty of nature in the raw. My thoughts are with all the bloggers and especially the team at Loch Garten who make our visits so fullfilling and informative.
RobinP
Posted on Friday, 3 April 2009 at 15:42
Beatrice, one of the three tagged birds on Roy Dennis' site, has just made it back to the UK (http://www.roydennis.org/osprey.htm).
Starburst
Posted on Friday, 3 April 2009 at 15:56

I'm keeping my fingers crossed that Nethy's tag has fallen off.  It's too sad to think that all 3 have lost their fight for survival.  

Soosin
Posted on Friday, 3 April 2009 at 16:42
Wonder if OV wil arrive back on the 13th again. There seems to be sightings of Ospreys almost daily over the past week and more on different bird forums, Seen our first swallow last Sunday 29th, which was a couple of weeks early for us this year, usually a couple of days on either side of the 17th April. tho it was in Galloway and not in Ayrshre where we live presently. Have siskins back on our feeders not seen them in the garden for about 5 years Isn't Spring wonderful.
Gamscot
Posted on Friday, 3 April 2009 at 16:57
Totally gutted about Nethy. Thought once she made it over the Sahara into Senegal she would be safe at least till she started to migrate home in a couple of years. Saw several ospreys while in Gambia last month but none with transmitters on. If chicks are successfully reared this year will you be repeating the experiment and fitting them with trackers again? God Bless Nethy and Deshar, you tried so hard. Rosemary
Susan Branch
Posted on Friday, 3 April 2009 at 17:14
I think it has been well expressed in all the above blogs. It is very sad. Let us hope that this year will be more successful. I still think that it is a great privilege for us to be so much part of their world and to have the added tracking side too. what would we do without the fantastic Loch Garten Team who keep us all so well informed......hears to the very best of the 2009 season.
Susan Branch
Posted on Friday, 3 April 2009 at 17:16
I cannot believe my eyes, no sooner had I sent My blog and got back to the webcam, another Osprey flies in......do we know who it is yet!!!!!!! Roll on this exciting 2009 saga!
Soosin
Posted on Friday, 3 April 2009 at 17:19
Re reading previous blogs, is it just me, or does there appear to be a belief that OV was a poor provider, I thought that he did well last year despite weather conditions hindering sight of and hence catching of fish. Maybe I'm wrong.
Caledonian1
Posted on Friday, 3 April 2009 at 17:19
Just logged on to the nestcam to be met by two Ospreys so EJ has found herself a mate, but who is it....
BunI
Posted on Friday, 3 April 2009 at 17:19
Exciting times... my sister has just called me to say that EJ's mate has arrived, so here am I checking for myself, great to see.
joelann
Posted on Friday, 3 April 2009 at 17:20
Tiger, I am with you on this.Surely the highs and lows of this fantastic Osprey family that has brought so many people together through this blog and raised the awareness of this majestic bird should be marked in some way.If any of the bloggers or the team at LG could come up with a suitable idea,maybe a plaque at the Loch Garten Centre,I and I am sure many others would be willing to participate in this.
Soosin
Posted on Friday, 3 April 2009 at 17:20
OOOO guess I was wrong about the 13th is that OV on thenest just now 5,15
rosie
Posted on Friday, 3 April 2009 at 17:21
Who is the osprey on the nest with EJ?
joelann
Posted on Friday, 3 April 2009 at 17:23
DO WE HAVE A MALE ON THE NEST????? YEEHAA!!! IF SO DOES ANYBODY KNOW WHO IT IS YET?
Soosin
Posted on Friday, 3 April 2009 at 17:23
or is it a new fella on the block
Valerie
Posted on Friday, 3 April 2009 at 17:24
Come on then who is it do tell us so exciting to see
somerled
Posted on Friday, 3 April 2009 at 17:28
3 April 17:26 Just saw another osprey on the nest with EJ
somerled
Posted on Friday, 3 April 2009 at 17:35
17:34 He's back and they are mating!
Brenda H
Posted on Friday, 3 April 2009 at 17:58
Just seen EJ mating with a male. Hope it is a new partner.
Suzyblu
Posted on Friday, 3 April 2009 at 17:59
A second Osprey has just visited EJ on the nest. How exciting. Who is the mysterious male and is it a male????
DianeS
Posted on Friday, 3 April 2009 at 18:03
Such sad news.
Brenda H
Posted on Friday, 3 April 2009 at 18:03
Just seen EJ mating with a male. Hope it is a new partner.
Millie2
Posted on Friday, 3 April 2009 at 18:03
Hi, just happened to see another bird sat on the nest with EJ at approx 1730hrs, is the first sighting - has anyone else any info on the bird - possible mate???
Brenda H
Posted on Friday, 3 April 2009 at 18:16
When did male bird arrive and have you identified it? We didn't notice it untill just before 6pm.
ChristineI
Posted on Friday, 3 April 2009 at 18:25
OOOOh! who is that male on the nest mating with EJ. I can't see any leg rings.
Carol
Posted on Friday, 3 April 2009 at 22:53

How is Caper Watch going? Not much fun getting up for 5.30am I bet

 

REPLY: 5.30am!  The chance would be a fine thing, that would be a long-lie.  It's alarm at 4am, to Osprey Centre for 4.45am, open for Caper-watch at 05.30am.  Mixed so far Carol, two male capers showed well on both 1st and 2nd April, one showed late and not that well on 3rd, and this morning, we blanked - nothing.  It's early days yet. - Richard

pip
Posted on Saturday, 4 April 2009 at 7:56
2 Ospreys 07.56 Sat............ but who is the second one?
CliveT
Posted on Saturday, 4 April 2009 at 8:11
Oh God EJ has a Mate but WHO is it ??? just saw two Ospreys on the nest Bravo at 08:11 CliveT
CliveT
Posted on Saturday, 4 April 2009 at 8:17
The Osprey I'm watching at present dosen't look like there is a Leg Ring and I have Full Screen too ............... So Who is it ?????????
Chris
Posted on Saturday, 4 April 2009 at 8:31
What a wonderful surprise when I turned on the computer this morning!!! Two ospreys on the nest. I wonder who the second one is - OVS, Henry or a new suitor. Oh, its so exciting!
Carolyn Lee
Posted on Saturday, 4 April 2009 at 8:37
Good morning Richard & LG team - so sad to hear the news of Nethy but she is such a fighter I will keep hoping for good news sometime. So excited this morning - two Ospreys on the nest - I can't see a ring - do we know who he is?
Suzyblu
Posted on Saturday, 4 April 2009 at 8:41
Will someone please put us straight and tell us who the new man in EJ's life is - the suspense is killing us!!!
Dan
Posted on Saturday, 4 April 2009 at 8:48
Just checked webcam (8.30am), there were two ospreys on the nest, any idea who the other one was?!
CliveT
Posted on Saturday, 4 April 2009 at 8:56
Wow Richard whoever he is he's a handsome dude fore sure ... they are both at home as I type this coment at 08:55 ....... I's so exciting Yeah CliveT
Wattle15
Posted on Saturday, 4 April 2009 at 9:21
EJ's mate has arrived!!! I can't see whi it is, because he's too close to the camera, but they are both sitting in the nest now!!! How wonderful!!! ;-))
Geoff
Posted on Saturday, 4 April 2009 at 9:28
Hi Guys. Just seen 2 ospreys on the nest!!! Who's the male please? Here we go again! Good luck everyone.
quietwoman
Posted on Saturday, 4 April 2009 at 9:46
Who is this other bird that EJ is accepting on her nest and mating with? I tried yesterday and today to see leg rings but, so far, unsuccessfully. Can anyone enlighten me?
GillP
Posted on Saturday, 4 April 2009 at 10:16
10.15 on Saturday morning - 2 birds on the nest. Who's the other one?
CliveT
Posted on Saturday, 4 April 2009 at 10:18
They just mated 10:16 Whoooooooopie CliveT
Sarah P
Posted on Saturday, 4 April 2009 at 10:25

I see two ospreys on the nest! Has EJ found a mate already? *Bounce, bounce, bounce*

birdcrazy
Posted on Saturday, 4 April 2009 at 11:02
Is that a mate on the nest now also ?
Ed Friday
Posted on Saturday, 4 April 2009 at 11:09
Two on the nest and we're there later today!!
eskdaledawn
Posted on Saturday, 4 April 2009 at 11:11
Anyone know who EJ's visitor is? She doesn't look too impressed!
patriciat
Posted on Saturday, 4 April 2009 at 11:16
Ooh - is that a male? I assume EJ would chase off anothr female. They seem both to be playing hard to get - but don't we all? Have to go out so I suppose I'll miss all the fun.
Harelady
Posted on Saturday, 4 April 2009 at 11:41
Just saw another bird on the nest alongside EJ - she was fine with it - was it her mate?
laineyc
Posted on Saturday, 4 April 2009 at 11:56
Who is this male who has landed on the nest, did see him bringing half a tree with him to boulster up the nest.
Pamela
Posted on Saturday, 4 April 2009 at 12:32
Saw two birds on nest around 9am. Watched mating around 10.10am! Waiting with bated breath for identification of the male.
mcmahos
Posted on Saturday, 4 April 2009 at 12:43
Such sad news, but please, update us soon on who the 2nd osprey is on EJ's nest today. Is it Orange VS?
Catherine C
Posted on Saturday, 4 April 2009 at 13:05
I've just looked at the nest and there are 2 birds sitting on it. Who is it? Has the right partner returned? I felt very sad about the news of Nethy, but life will go on and I am really looking forward to the pleasure of watching EJ and partner and then the new chicks.
Sheila
Posted on Saturday, 4 April 2009 at 13:43
Goodness, someone is on the nest with EJ! All looking good - who is it, Richard? I can see a tag. Tiger - like your idea of us bloggers doing something to help the project in memory of our brood that gave so much pleasure (and pain) last year. Any suggestions?
revdtricia
Posted on Saturday, 4 April 2009 at 13:56
So sorry to hear about Nethy I always check on her whereabouts when I go onto Goggle Earth. Nice surprise a few minutes ago though when I checked the webcam (I have it on all day in the background) to see that a mate for EJ has arrived. Do we know who he is yet? All the best from sunny!!! Romney Marsh.
John Robinson
Posted on Saturday, 4 April 2009 at 14:17
Do we know who the male was this morning ?
Soosin
Posted on Saturday, 4 April 2009 at 22:43

am sorry to be practical, but maybe instead of a plaque, just donations to the RSPB to do with what they will.

 

REPLY.  Agree Soosin, or join RSPB (on-line, quoting code PR08) or if you're a member already then encourage others to do so, or take out membership as a gift for someone.   -  Richard

Alan Bell
Posted on Tuesday, 7 April 2009 at 23:42
Good to see Ospreys' back at LG.....I took my grandsons' ot PiperDam in Fife last weekend hoping to see Ospreys' - but they have not had an Osprey for 2 years now....although an Osprey takes fish daily from the loch.....I wonder how far they travel from the nest in search of fish PiperDam is about 80 miles from LG..?? Good luck to LG team this year and will see you in june/July.. Alan Bell
Floweringpot
Posted on Thursday, 9 April 2009 at 19:43
I am so sorry to read this news, but when I see the osprey sitting on the nest I just have to smile. Thank you to all the team for all the hard work and heart ache that you must go thru', but thank you also for bringing it to life for us all.

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