Loch Garten osprey diary

The ospreys at Loch Garten have people across the world gripped in their tale of violence, adultery and... well... fishing.  More...

The Excitement Never Ends.................

As expected at the start of the season the Osprey Centre has been very busy..... but not as busy as our new male Odin. Not a minute of the day goes by without seeing our male displaying, preparing the nest, mating or delivering fish, he certainly is making a good impression on EJ.

However it is not only EJ who is impressed.... our visitors have been entertained by Odin's nest gathering forays right in front of the Centre as well as his frequent display flights.... Our new male certainly isn't camera shy!

For those who have never seen an osprey display flight it is certainly a sight to behold....the male flies up and down in a roller coaster fashion, brandishing a fish whilst making a sound that can only be described as being similar to a squeaky bike!

His fishing exploits are quickly becoming a talking point with four fish being brought in on both Wednesday and Thursday as well as a 16" brown trout this morning... the lack of any rainbow trout so far, would suggest he has possibly not found the fish farm yet.

So spring has definately sprung at Loch Garten, and excitement is in the air...and it is not just the osprey who have been entertaining the staff and visitors this past week!  We have been treated to woodpeckers on the feeders, a capercaillie drying off in a tree after a downpour, squirrels attempting to master eating from seed feeders as well as peanut feeders, and toads ambling across the path and carpark on the way to their mating pools! 

We anticipate it being very busy over the Easter weekend, so we shall publish a blog on Tuesday to update you on all the news...until then we await the next fish....

Posted by claire foot at 10:47 on 11 April 2009.  83 comments

Comments

Maureen
Posted on Saturday, 11 April 2009 at 11:34

Thanks for your report Claire....Odin is certainly proving himself!!!! It is always nice to hear what the other little creatures are up to. Thanks again.

WEE JEANNIE
Posted on Saturday, 11 April 2009 at 11:41

Thankyou very much for the update, Claire- eagerly awaited by us all!

Lovely to hear  Odin is doing his job well - let's hope he keeps it up when the chicks arrive!

I have never seen an osprey displaying but I would dearly love to - it sounds wonderful!

I think we shall have to make an early visit to LG next year, instead of our usual June/July.  Mind you - we  went to Wales beginning of March, instead of our usual late April, hoping to see Red Kites displaying- and not a single one obliged!!

Ali
Posted on Saturday, 11 April 2009 at 11:59

Thanks for the update Claire.  Odin also seems impressive on the screen, so can't wait to see him in the flesh next month.  

Carrie
Posted on Saturday, 11 April 2009 at 12:21

Thanks for the update Claire. Sounds like a fantastic time to be up there. I would love to see Odins display flights, maybe next year.........

Lorraine
Posted on Saturday, 11 April 2009 at 13:04

Thank you Claire that's a lovely description of all that is going on at LG.

Lucky EJ she should be impressed!

It bodes well for her and their future chicks(crossed fingers)that Odin is bringing in so many fish already...long may it continue.

Mitch
Posted on Saturday, 11 April 2009 at 13:05

What a time to log into the site today to see EJ battling with this huge stick which appeared to be twisted around her leg, wing and body. My heart was literally in my mouth as I watched her teetering on the edge of the nest. Fortunately she managed to free herself but what would happen in that situation if she hadn't? Would you intervene to extracate her? I can let my adrenalin levels subside now.

REPLY: a stick would be unlikely to incapacitate her for long, she would almost certainly eventually extricate herself from it.  Any attempt to intervene would make her fly from the nest and that alone would probably result in her & the stick sorting themselves out.  -  Richard

Pamela
Posted on Saturday, 11 April 2009 at 13:23

Have just watched EJ struggling with a branch which appeared to be caught across her back or wings.  After much flapping she sat still looking bewildered and I was afraid she was in real trouble.  but another flap dislodged it.  Will feathers have been damaged?  and are there records of ospreys coming to grief this way?

Pamela

Claire - We were worried here at the Centre as she seemed to be struggling a little, but she is fine now, so nothing to worry about phew! 

Valc
Posted on Saturday, 11 April 2009 at 13:49

Thank you, Claire.  It is a very exciting time up there!  Had to smile earlier, Odin is sooo like my hubby!  EJ had arranged the nest to her liking, Odin arrived back and changed it all!!!!!  No doubt, EJ will do as I do and wait till he goes away and change it back again!!!!!!!!

Heather
Posted on Saturday, 11 April 2009 at 14:00

thanks for the update all sounds really positive ! How i wish i could visit you this easter!

Hoping all goes well,will look for next update.

Soosin
Posted on Saturday, 11 April 2009 at 14:08

It's been good this morning watching them wrestle with rather large twigs and the wind.  Have just been reading bird forum and someone said that there still  seems to be some debate on facebook as to whether we actually have a new male or if it's Henry. Was Henry not known for his bright Orange eyes which normally change to yellow with maturity or am I completely wrong -  AGAIN. I think Odin has  bright yellow eyes easilly seen sometimes when he amusingly stares straight into camera.  I;m sure the LG team will know from plumage characters I just always think of his eyes.

 

REPLY: Odin is not Henry. Yes, oddly Henry had retained his orange eyes into adulthood (orange in juvenile birds). Odin has yellow eyes.  Also Henry once had both a metal ring and a plastic colour ring (HV) which must have broken at some point and come off. But metal rings wouldn't break, so Henry still sported a metal ring which Odin does not.  And yes plus subtle plumage features all add up to this not being Henry.  -  Richard

Alexandra
Posted on Saturday, 11 April 2009 at 14:24

Thanks Claire,

Sounds wonderful! Coming to visit on Tuesday so hope to see some 'action' then.

Alexandra
Posted on Saturday, 11 April 2009 at 14:35

It looks like a 'bad hair day' for ospreys at LG today!

Barbara Jean
Posted on Saturday, 11 April 2009 at 14:42

Thank you very much for letting us know he has been bringing fish for EJ !! . Each time I see her she is calling him and  he  comes empty talon to mate.  After last year's loss of "Wee  One" I hoped  EJ would have a mate this year who is a good  provider.  

ALAN PETRIE
Posted on Saturday, 11 April 2009 at 14:51

Thanks for the update Claire. It looks as though we have a good team in EJ and Odin this year. Looking forward to the egg laying and hence the chicks.

Simon
Posted on Saturday, 11 April 2009 at 14:58

..thanks Claire, Happy easter you lucky lucky lady :)

Gary
Posted on Saturday, 11 April 2009 at 15:09

Thanks as always Claire. Very descriptive.

It may have been missed as I posted it at the end of the last blog but I wanted to congratulate Richard, Claire and everyone at LG (and from last year, David etc) on the success of the blog. Looking back to this time last year there were less than 10 comments on most entry's and the last one this year had 157! I think that shows how much it means to so many people, including me! The down side is that we are on a never ending quest for information/updates!:)

Barbara Jean
Posted on Saturday, 11 April 2009 at 16:09

Odin just brought a fish for EJ!! She flew to a tree to eat it.

Soosin
Posted on Saturday, 11 April 2009 at 16:12

mmmm  

JanKTFA
Posted on Saturday, 11 April 2009 at 16:15

Odin is great value for money LOL  a real star in the making; glad things are going well and so much activity elsewhere at LG

Barbara Jean
Posted on Saturday, 11 April 2009 at 17:00

Where is the center whne we are looking at the  Web Can feed? Is it behind the camera or  to the left or right side?  REPLY:  behind the camera

I am watching Odin as he  works on preparing  the nest. He moved branches to form a better outer ring; did some nest scrapping and is now bringing in most moss. He  certainly is a high energy bird. I hope he keeps up the good work.  He will become one of the  favorites  at LG

Valerie
Posted on Saturday, 11 April 2009 at 17:09

Thanks for a lovely update Claire , Odin is really a handsome bird .  Lets hope that nothing happens to spoil the romance because I guess there is still time for OVS to return or even Henry , I personally was hoping that Nimrod would stop off at LG on his way north  and there is still time for that to happen !!! I guess these next couple of weeks will settle things .  If Odin hasnt found the fish farm I guess that means he is not a 'local' bird then , wait till he does he will think its Xmas and hey thats easy !!!

BarbaraAnne
Posted on Saturday, 11 April 2009 at 17:13

Thank you for the update Claire and all the wonderful news...

The wind is dropping now and should be down to 5mph by 9pm..

So Ej can relax on the nest a bit more and not have twigs flying at her.

We watched the display flights a couple of years ago and it is as Claire says a site to behold, on of natures magical moments.

Looks as though we might have 4 eggs at the Goshawk site New Forest...Great news..

Come on EJ get laying girl !!

Mitch
Posted on Saturday, 11 April 2009 at 17:49

Thank you for the information Claire. Would it be possible for you to train one of your other camera's on the display and record it so that those of us not lucky enough to be able to visit could see it? I'm pleased to see that EJ is alright after her tussle with that huge stick this morning.

 

REPLY:  Sorry Mitch, just not possible.  -  Richard

patriciat
Posted on Saturday, 11 April 2009 at 18:12

Sounds like Odin is likely to prove a good provider - he's certainly an enthusiastic mate!  Hope he doesn't have to fight off Henry.  Thanks, Claire, for keeping us up to date.  

m lake
Posted on Saturday, 11 April 2009 at 18:39

Saw Odin today for the first time up close. He is a handsome chap and am hoping he is a better provider than OVS. So glad to hear that he is looking after EJ.

Like everyone else am looking forward to the eggs chicks etc. Great to see so many familiar names from last year and am looking forward to my visit to LG in June. The team do a fantastic job and many thanks to you all.

Loony Lynne
Posted on Saturday, 11 April 2009 at 19:28

Just viewed EJ? digging out that hole in the middle a bit more - hopefully she is preparing for the imminent arrival of an egg.... I'll go for tomorrow night! I havent seen Odin bring food to the nest yet, so thanks for all the updates Claire. I have just checked out Loch of Lowes and I think there is 2 eggs now (but not certain) Hope you all have a Happy Easter . Lx

M G
Posted on Saturday, 11 April 2009 at 19:32

Nice to see the pair of them standing there on a nice sunny evening although the way their feathers are blowing looks a bit windy, love the coy way EJ looks at him I hope this pair will have strong healthy chicks and all goes well but with nature you never know but have to say all looks very promising at the moment.

Ed Friday
Posted on Sunday, 12 April 2009 at 1:05

Wondered how long it would be till people starting tryng to guess egg laying times!!  My money's on Tuesday for what it's worth. Many thanks to the staff who made our 4 visits to LG last Saturday to Tuesday so interesting.  Shame we didn't see the caper this time but we saw the squirrels on the Tuesday caperwatch which is always a highlight. Went home via Loch of Lowes and Montrose Basin both of which I love as well. Was so chuffed to see Odin and EJ obviously who seems like an old friend now as she's been there since I started visiting LG...

CliveT
Posted on Sunday, 12 April 2009 at 11:43

My guess for the first egg is Thursday ............ and I say a female will hatch from it !

Starburst
Posted on Sunday, 12 April 2009 at 12:41

Odin just brought a fish in, EJ grabbed it and headed off.

ALAN PETRIE
Posted on Sunday, 12 April 2009 at 12:58

2nd egg now confirmed at Loch of the Lowes. Her 54th in total. What an amazing statistic. Come on EJ it is time to get laying.

Margobird
Posted on Sunday, 12 April 2009 at 14:48

Thanks for the update Claire together with associated stories sounds as though there is so much going on now.  What an excciting time of the year for you all although I guess facing some trepidation too.  Yes Odin is such a handsome boy, EJ has found a good partner and although i have yet to see the fish coming in it is good to know from the blog that they are.

WEE JEANNIE
Posted on Sunday, 12 April 2009 at 16:09

16.08pm - Odin just brought in a small headless fish, which EJ took from him and flew off. First I've seen today but presumably he brought some earlier? Did anyone see?

Loony Lynne
Posted on Sunday, 12 April 2009 at 18:35

Hi - Being only in my second year of Osprey watching - I feel I am missing out on who's who and where. I here all these names of other / past birds and wondered whether  (and where) there is a list of who has been here / mated etc and when. Would be grateful for any direction :-) Lynne

 

REPLY: Take a look under Tags, to the right hand side of the diary page, that'll give you some information.  -  Richard

Barbara Jean
Posted on Sunday, 12 April 2009 at 19:28

We may have an egg soon.

EJ was calling Odin, but when he arrived at the nest without a fish she flew away. By flying away  she may have signaled she is done mating.  He immediately started nest scraping to enlarge the hole and rearranging the nest branches and  hay

CliveT
Posted on Sunday, 12 April 2009 at 20:33
I have been away for most of the day and when I got home and viewed there seems to be a lot of small twigs/branches in the nest now so more moss in needed for the base for the eggs or will more nest scraping be the norm ......... CliveT
Mitch
Posted on Sunday, 12 April 2009 at 20:43

Well what a lovely sight, Odin scraping out the nest. The first time I've seen him do that and I did wonder exactly what he was up to until he turned round and did it towards the camera. Is it me but is the nest much more luxuriously furbished this year than it was last? Thanks to his efforts in part presumably.

 

REPLY: More fresh, red sphagnum moss than most years, maybe he likes the new colour scheme.  -  Richard

Soosin
Posted on Sunday, 12 April 2009 at 20:56

been away all day, (heard my first willow warbler,couldn't find it tho, no time) and have logged on to find a completely different looking nest since yesterday mid afternoon.  They've obviously been very busy. the bowl? looks quite big now with plenty of moss and sides are higher.  Imminent egg laying perhaps lol.

 

REPLY: Heard my first willow warbler too, on Saturday morning.  It woke me up. For me it's is the indicator that Summer is here.  Checked a goldeneye nest box in my garden too, it's got 13 eggs. -  Richard

Ed Friday
Posted on Sunday, 12 April 2009 at 20:58

Just to make a link between lovers of real ale and birdwatching (which I amply proved during my visit to the LG area :D), I've just been invited to a wedding in Shetland where the only brewery is the Valhalla Brewery named after the hall of the Norse God, you've guessed it, Odin!!! All fallen Viking warriors are met there with a horn filled with good ale apparently!! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valhalla_Brewery

 

REPLY:  A pint of Odin's Ale, has a certain ring to it.  -  Richard

Valerie
Posted on Sunday, 12 April 2009 at 23:17
Well with the look on EJs face tonight eggs are definately on their way !!! so its going to be easter chicks , so now Odin you have to look after her we are relying on you to give her and the babies when they come into this world plenty of fish - please no wee yins this year . Congratulations all round soon and maybe tomorrow - I am wondering whether to stay up all night and watch her !!!!!!!!!
Kathy J
Posted on Sunday, 12 April 2009 at 23:23

23.22 Looks like EJ is staying on her nest tonight, so perhaps we are getting very close to seeing her lay her first egg.  Hope so.

 

REPLY:  Could be.  In season's past, female ospreys have often roosted on the nest, the night before egg-laying is imminent.  Though maybe it happens more than we've known, as previously we didn't have an infra-red camera.  My money's on Wednesday for eggs, but entirely happy to be wrong, so long as we get eggs at some point.  -  Richard

Chris
Posted on Sunday, 12 April 2009 at 23:59
Midnight, and EJ resting on her nest. Does this mean an egg is about to be laid shortly? What a lovely Easter gift that would be. Thank you all, staff and bloggers for keeping everyone up to date with the goings on. Happy Easter to you all!
Starburst
Posted on Monday, 13 April 2009 at 0:20
EJ is standing on the nest. Will she be sitting on an egg by the morning? Lets hope so. Soooo exciting!!
Wattle15
Posted on Monday, 13 April 2009 at 0:24
EJ appears to be settling for the night on the rim of the nest. I'll put my bid in for the first egg tomorrow. It's Monday morning hear in Australia at the moment, so that will be Monday morning UK time!!!
rosie
Posted on Monday, 13 April 2009 at 2:36
Ej on the nest . Wonder if we might get our first egg soon ? great that Morven has made it home , looking forward to next update
Barbara Jean
Posted on Monday, 13 April 2009 at 2:52
An egg may be on the way!! It is 2:45 A.M. UK time and EJ is sleeping on the nest. She has never slept on the nest until tonight. I live in the USA and the time difference allows me to check the nest at night. It is 8:45 P.M. here
Maisie
Posted on Monday, 13 April 2009 at 7:41
EJ looking wonderful this morning.......she was doing her best to create some kind of order with the vast amount of stuff in the nest! If Odin doesn't ease off soon with the material we will not get to see chicks until they are big enough to fledge!!
Geoff
Posted on Monday, 13 April 2009 at 9:49

Hi Richard. I agree that willow warbler is a great indicator that summer is finally here. I saw my first of the year yesterday (Isle of Man) along with wheatears, swallows, sand martins and sandwich terns. Puffins were reported of the Islands coast yesterday so I'm going to see if I can find any now. The way EJ is behaving I think an egg is going to appear today or tomorrow, but as you say, as long as we see some at some point. I know goldeneye have large broods but is 13 unusually large?

 

REPLY: Geoff, 13 isn't such an exceptionaly clutch size for goldeneye, though 8-10 might be more usual.  A phenomenon termed egg-dumping can occur, whereby immature female goldeneye, unable as yet to lay fertile eggs, go through the motions, (practice, if you like) of laying infertile eggs in a variety of nest sites.  I once checked a box that had 26 eggs in it, almost certainly a case of egg-dumping by one, two or maybe even three immature ducks.  -  Richard

becky
Posted on Monday, 13 April 2009 at 10:17
I think today or tomorrow for an egg i can not wait EJ is looking so good this year and Odin is going to be an excellent Dad
CliveT
Posted on Monday, 13 April 2009 at 10:21
I still say Thursday for the first egg ... and a female will hatch from it :) CliveT
quietwoman
Posted on Monday, 13 April 2009 at 10:21

Hi Anny! Another exciting season for us. Just great, isn't it? The nest is certainly much safer, and warmer for young this year. VS was not the best provider but then he is old and age has a habit of catching up with us. I think this nest is magnificent and I'm hoping the handsome Odin is as fertile as he is proficient at nest building. I think the first egg will be laid 14/15th provided first matings were successful. Like Richard I don't care as long as some are laid some time and lead to healthy young Osprey. By the way, isn't this the day VS returned last year?

Maureen
Posted on Monday, 13 April 2009 at 11:30
As Claire said..."the excitment never ends"...have just seen Sammy squirrel for the first time. Question......why does he have to make life difficult for himself? It would be easier to get nuts from his own feeder.
chudy
Posted on Monday, 13 April 2009 at 11:42
I'm so excited about this season.....the last years this was one only...but now I'm watching eight nest!!!! I know...I'm sick.... Look this nest in Garraf, Barcelona http://www.diba.cat/parcsn/parcs/aliga.asp?parc=0&m=164&s=1239 She had two chicks the last Thursday...(incredible and wonderful)
Loony Lynne
Posted on Monday, 13 April 2009 at 11:51
Grateful for the night updates Barbara. Richard - thanks for the tags direction.
Soosin
Posted on Monday, 13 April 2009 at 11:53
wow, clutch of 13, she'll have her work cut out richard, how nice. just logged on to an empty nest , have I missed anything this morning, back to work tomorrow so b back to evening watches only
John Harwood
Posted on Monday, 13 April 2009 at 12:18
I hear there was an intruder diving at EJ yesterday and it landed on the nest at one point, can you confirm this LG team, do you know who it was? I predict EJ will lay her 1st egg this evening
Geoff
Posted on Monday, 13 April 2009 at 13:08
Thanks for the goldeneye info Richard, I hadn't heard of egg dumping before. I just keep learning from you guys. Thanks again.
Lesley Gadsden
Posted on Monday, 13 April 2009 at 13:42
Odin appears to be doing a great impression of a Harpie Eagle at the moment. Must be quite breezy being up so high. Great viewing x
Karen
Posted on Monday, 13 April 2009 at 14:07

Odin flew off leaving EJ and returned with a fish for her at 1.50pm.  He wasn’t gone long – 10 minutes at the most so I think he may now have found the fish farm.  I think EJ will lay her first egg tonight,  

 

REPLY: A fish within 10 mins, are you sure?  To make it to the fish farm and back in that time he'd need jet-propulsion, it must take at least 30 minute turn-around.  Maybe he caught it in Loch Garten, though it doesn't have much in the way of fish and the water is peaty and dark brown, like milk-less tea, making what few fish there are, difficult to see, but it's possible. Might be another source immediately local to us, perhaps.  -  Richard

scottie
Posted on Monday, 13 April 2009 at 15:01

I have followed the progress and blogs since this time last year but have decided to register this year. Been following the LG ospreys for over 40 yrs and can remember when the nest was viewed from a little wooden hide/shed about 6ft square. How things have changed. The Website and the fitting of gps tracking has really made it compulsive viewing.

Barbara Jean, re EJ flying away and perhaps indicating she has finished mating is not the case. Although the male sperm can fertilise eggs a number of days later, it is generally a 3 day window. That is to say, copulation that takes place just prior to or after each egg laid, will be responsible for fertilising the next egg. Copulation will continue up to the final egg is fertilised and sometimes even after to strengthen the pair bond. I myself breed Birds of Prey and witness this behaviour each year on my own cctv

Karen
Posted on Monday, 13 April 2009 at 16:10
Richard – Yes I’m sure. Odin and EJ were in the nest and he flew off. EJ was quietly chirping and it wasn’t long before he returned. I wasn't at my PC for long so it could only have been about 10 minutes or so. EJ tamely moved towards him, took the fish from his talon and flew off. My brother suspected he already had the fish and just brought that in. Do they leave fish in trees where they perch?
Lorraine
Posted on Monday, 13 April 2009 at 17:49
That is fascinating information Scottie... so does that mean then, that if a male that has mated first with a female, gets chased off by another male.... that the first egg could be the first male, then the subsequent eggs would in all probability be the second males progeny?
Maureen
Posted on Monday, 13 April 2009 at 18:45

Hi Richard......on 9th. April at 8.08pm ??Odin was on nest with EJ...... another Osprey flew down and mated with her and ??Odin few away. Any answers? Thanks.

 

REPLY:  Hmmm, that's curious.  I've just phoned the Centre and asked them to check the log book and they tell me that on 9th there's an entry at 8.07pm of both EJ and Odin being in the nearby dead tree.  The next log entry is at 8.20pm when one bird was on the nest the other still in the dead tree.

It is certainly possible that the person on duty at that time needed to pop out and make a "comfort-stop", and just missed this, but that's unlikely.  Last week's volunteers have now left us, so I cannot quiz them directly. 

I don't really look at other ospreys nest on webcams, but I gather there are several others including some abroad, and some of you have split screens with different ones up at the same time.  Could this be an explanation for possible confusion I wonder.  -  Richard

Barbara Jean
Posted on Tuesday, 14 April 2009 at 3:57
It is 4 A.M. UK time and EJ did not sleep on the nest tonight
WEE JEANNIE
Posted on Tuesday, 14 April 2009 at 7:45
Hi Karen - Yes, I'm sure I saw that fish delivery, too. I wasn't timing, but I remember thinking "Golly, that was quick!" The nest-cup looks nice and deep this morning - wonder if EJ roosted there last night? Hope she's getting ready to lay!
CliveT
Posted on Tuesday, 14 April 2009 at 9:12

Both EJ and Odin seem to be spending more time together at the nest and surveying the air space so are there other Ospreys giving them concern ??

 

REPLY: Suveying the airspace above them, can be for anything.  They'll check out buzzards soaring overhead and nearby, which is a regular occurance, curlews sometimes nest in the bog surrounding the osprey nest and so they'll keep an eye on them too. Anything passing over will draw their attention, from all manner of birds to fighter jets (though if you're watching at those times you'll probably hear them) hot air balloons, anything airborne really.  So their apparent vigilance need not always indicate an osprey intruder in the area, but that does of course does happen too.  -  Richard

Karen
Posted on Tuesday, 14 April 2009 at 9:24

Wee Jeannie - thanks for posting.  I was beginning to think I was going mad!!!   We also thought about Nethy and Deshar.  After EJ left last year, VS never brought them in any fish but they must of been getting fish somewhere.  As far as I can remember they never visited the fish farm so is there somewhere nearer where they can fish?  

CliveT
Posted on Tuesday, 14 April 2009 at 10:09

Hi Richard ... as well as EJs calling I have a continuous buzzing is this normal or is it my system at fault ?

 

REPLY: Might be picking up some interference from the gas-powered generator that powers all our equipment.  -  Richard

CliveT
Posted on Tuesday, 14 April 2009 at 11:36

Richard, readiing your reply to Karen regarding fish quantities in LG I ask, are a majority of fish caught at the Fish Farm if so do they breed Brownies there as well as Rainbows because I read last year that Brown trout were brought in too.

So many questions so many grateful replies ........

CliveT

 

REPLY: I believe that the fish of choice at the fish farm are rainbow trout because they grow more quickly.  It is mainly rainbows that we see brought back to the nest, but yes some brownies, probably caught in the River Spey or other lochans, and small pike too. --  Richard

Loony Lynne
Posted on Tuesday, 14 April 2009 at 12:01

Hi folks - has anyone else been observing Odin having piggy backs all morning. I am sure he has forgotten what he is supposed to be doing. Between 8:30 and 11:55 I have seen him, three times, just sat on EJ looking out of the nest. (or is he just being 'very' discreet)

Loony Lynne
Posted on Tuesday, 14 April 2009 at 12:07
12:07 - Just been a mating - but was it Odin?
Taffy2
Posted on Tuesday, 14 April 2009 at 13:32

Richard, has any decision been made about tagging of young this year? That's assuming they have any! Surely the nest has the right decor now!! :)

 

REPLY: We hope to and would certainly like to, and I'm sure you would to, but we have yet to find the funding.  More anon.  Richard

 

scottie
Posted on Tuesday, 14 April 2009 at 14:03

Hi Lorraine, yes your assumption on who the father would be is basically correct but would depend on exactly when another male arrived. As copulation takes place many times each day, any mating just prior to and just after the first egg being laid will be responsible for the next egg and so on. IF a new male arrived and was accepted the day after  the egg laying times, then in all probability, he would be responsible for not the next egg, but the one after that. I hope that makes sense.

Hopefully that won't happen as another male may also dispose of any eggs already there as has happened in the past. This new male Odin appears to have what it takes though and would most likely see off any unwanted guests.

John Harwood
Posted on Tuesday, 14 April 2009 at 15:10
Maureen McCann, according to a poster on Birdforum there was an intruder on the nest on April 13th, EJ mantled with it until it flew off then it dived bombed EJ for a while. Wonder if it is the same on you saw on the 9th. Did you see 3 birds on the nest at the same time? John
quietwoman
Posted on Tuesday, 14 April 2009 at 16:05
Odin, yes definitely Odin, has just brought EJ a good sized fish with which she flew off. Odin now stands guard on the nest.
CliveT
Posted on Tuesday, 14 April 2009 at 16:17
Odin returned at 16:00 with a medium size fish which EJ took and flew off as usual but I will wait to see her return as she was very quick eating one yesterday returning in no time at all mybe 20 mins ... CliveT
CliveT
Posted on Tuesday, 14 April 2009 at 16:33
Well it was 16:32 that EJ returned from her meal and brought back something that Odin took and ate then flew off ........ CliveT
CliveT
Posted on Tuesday, 14 April 2009 at 16:41
16:39 ... Odin just returned with another fish of some description which EJ took as left ... am I puzzled here as to where he got it or is he getting these fish close by the site ... *scratches head*
quietwoman
Posted on Tuesday, 14 April 2009 at 16:47
Odin has just brought in another fish! I don't know where he is fishing but he certainly didn't take long to get it. Less than 10 mins.!!! Unless he has a cache of fish somewhere, there are two almost identical males, or he is fishing successfully in Loch Garten. Two fish within just under 40mins. is incredible, isn't it?
quietwoman
Posted on Tuesday, 14 April 2009 at 16:51
Forgot to add, sorry, EJ brought back a morsel of the first fish and allowed Odin to take it. Richard, is it possible that Odin is a bird from an earlier clutch of EJ's??
Barbara Jean
Posted on Tuesday, 14 April 2009 at 16:58
Odin appeared to bring EJ another snack size fish. I sure hope he finds the fish farm soon. Those little fish he is finding won't be enough. As I am looking at the nest he always lands with fish from the left side. Is that the direction of the muddy body of water at LG where it is hard to see the fish? Which direction from the Web Cam view is the Fish Farm? Thanks Barbara
WEE JEANNIE
Posted on Tuesday, 14 April 2009 at 20:11
Could he be fishing in the River Spey somewhere nearby? Surely it's not far "as the osprey flies" to, say, the river through Boat of Garten?
CliveT
Posted on Tuesday, 14 April 2009 at 20:53

Barbara Jean, They always land into the wind as all birds do - if you notice when either or both are on the nest the wind is coming from the right as you can see by their feathers being blown - likewise when mating EJ is facing to the right as you look at the screen.

CliveT

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