Loch Garten osprey diary

The ospreys at Loch Garten have people across the world gripped in their tale of violence, adultery and... well... fishing.  More...

Well, what a turn around....

The Loch Garten emotional rollercoaster ride continues, and presently we're climbing, thankfully.

Odin seems to be back on form now, in fact back on better form than before!  He delivered no less than six fish to the nest yesterday.  This return to form strongly suggests that he has now overcome the dual problems he was having early last week, of possible impaired fishing ability due to injury, and a relentless onslaught of intruding ospreys to deal with.

As you know, on Wednesday last week we added a few trout to the nest.  This was in order to tide-over EJ and newly hatched brood, at what for them was a very vulnerable time, and to buy some time until we knew quite where Odin was at, in terms of possible injury and trauma following his entanglement with fishing line. 

We are firmly of the view that he had sustained some sort of damage after what we think was a struggle with fishing line, for example strained muscles perhaps, when fighting to free himself?  This, at a time when he needed to be fishing fervently, and perhaps requiring all the more time to do so, due to reduced efficiency because of injury.  And yet he had his work cut out repelling intruders too.

Given that his change in behaviour appeared to have resulted from an anthropogenic (man-made)cause - the fishing line - rather than a more natural mishap, after much careful thought and deliberation, we decided to intervene and add a few fish to the nest. We did this just once last week and it was our hope that he would get through whatever was ailing him, that the incidence of intruding ospreys would subside and that Odin would return to full fitness and to being the in-form osprey he had proved himself to be thus far.  

At the time we couldn't know what the outcome for Odin would be - would he survive at all, would he recuperate fully, and would he get through this problem period, caused by man and his activities.

Our actions would appear to have helped and to have worked.  Those added fish, just eased the situation for hungry EJ and brood, eased the pressure on the recovering Odin, and in so doing gave him some respite from dual duties, enabling him to concentrate on dishing out short-shrift to the marauders.

Odin seems to have made a complete recovery and the smiles amongst us here have not just returned, but have got broader and broader at each arriving fish.  The huge relief, glee and excitement were palpable yesterday amongst us all; oursleves here, our visitors, those involved in the conference-call between the recently convened Odin think-tank group, formed to review the situation, and of course you all out there in the ether.  When checking the blog comments late last night as that sixth fish of the day came in,  it was abundantly clear that you  were all also ecstatic.

A day at a time, mind.  Odin does seem to be back on form, but given what's happened, I think we cannot take everything for granted and we should be pleased, but measured in our confidence.  The three chicks would appear to have had a surfeit of food in the past few days, to the point, as some of you have commented, that EJ almost has to force feed them.  When stuffed full, they are likely to just lie there motionless which I know can alarm you, as and when you first log on, but they are currently doing very well.

I know also, that the rivalry between siblings concerns some of you too.  This is perfectly natural behaviour.  We tend to see more of it, when food is short and they are sparring with each other for dominance in the nest in order to secure the lion's share of fish. Nevertheless, such bickering between chicks can occur at any time, its just the chicks asserting themselves, learning combative skills, learning to live alongside each other - all of which may serve them well in later life etc. 

We've seen it all before, many times and have always shared your concerns, especially when it gets particularly brutal and unpalatable to watch.  But as I type this, this sort of behaviour is going on in every bird of prey nest with young, the world over - it's just what happens.  In this case, it's the down-side of being able to watch & witness all the other amazing, fascinating and enjoyable behaviour. A classic case of the rough with the smooth, I'm afraid.

If my memory serves me (and it does so, less than it did), such bullying hasn't led to the death of a chick here at Loch Garten, except last year, when we lost the smallest one due to a lack of food, because OVS was just so utterly useless at provisioning EJ - (cue howls from OVS fans, no doubt). We didn't step in then and supplimentary feed, because as far as we knew the short-fall in food was a result of OVS' natural incompetence. 

Another year, the third and smallest chick took one hell of a battering from his siblings to the point where his proudly, newly acquired brand new head feathering lasted about a week before it was all pecked out - Baldrick, I think we called him that year!  But he made it through to fledging.

So, with Odin seemingly back on the best of form, even if the youngest chick were to go into a natural decline, we will not be intervening with fish, and from this point on we will let nature take its course.  Quite frankly the way fish are arriving, I feel confident all three chicks will survive.  Some have suggested removing the larger chick to alleviate the attacks on the younger two.  We'll not be doing that either.  They will be left to their own devices now, unless some further unforeseen anthropogenic problem arises, and then we will review the situation. 

It has to be the way.  Some of you will no doubt disagree and think us heartless if anything were to happen, but that just has to be the way forward now.  If a chick goes under for natural reasons, that was its fate, its destiny.  Lending a helping hand might never turn that weakling into a viable, healthy, thriving young osprey, capable of migrating successfully. Think Deshar, last year.  With hindsight, was he in poor condition through a lack of food?

Honestly though, looking at these rotund, weeble-like chicks lolling around in the nest, replete to the point of bursting, I am confident all three will succeed, especially given how many of you have reported how large our chicks are in comparison to those at The Lowes, who are at least a week ahead of ours, I think.

It's up to them now.  Here's hoping.

Our ospreys of course steal the show here at Loch Garten, but there is a varied supporting cast too.  Currently redstarts are nesting right in front of the Osprey Centre and showing very well.  Red squirrels - a rare mammal in UK terms - are a fixture, with up to six present throughout the day.  Even capercaillie sometimes still show, in the afternoons, seen from the Centre.

Talking of Caper, our fingers are crossed this week, for them and Black Grouse, two iconic species here at Aberenthy.  It is this week, that we can expect and hope to see the first broods appearing.  The weather has been reasonably kind so far, though typically just when we need it to least, it has turned showery, but at least it is not heavy rain.  It's turned a wee bit cool too, which seems to be the pattern nowadays,  just when grouse chicks need fine weather to get them through there first few weeks of life. But we've had it worse, at this time of year, so we are desperately hoping that the current spell of weather, ideally improves or at least stays as is, to help the fortunes of these two species.

Finally, this weekend marks 50 years since we started showing people ospreys at Loch Garten.  If you are able to come along on Saturday (or at any time), please do. We'd be delighted to see you. Given the events of the past two weeks, it's further cause to celebrate.  Hope you can come along.

Posted by richard thaxton at 8:51 on 10 June 2009.  618 comments

Comments

Karen
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 11:04
Richard, what a brilliant update - thank you. I'm hoping to get up at the weekend, if not I hope everyone has a fantastic 50th!!
Leicester Lass
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 11:09
Thanks Richard for that lovely, long, and well considered comment.
wendymac
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 11:13
richard many many thanks for your update. i, for one, totally agree with you that things should develop naturally no matter how hard or upsetting it is for us humans to watch and listen to. having watched the family for a short while this morning i can see what adifference your one fish delivery has made but as you pointed out this was because the problem odin had was man-made and not nature. all us humans have a lot (and have learned alot) from these beautiful birds and how they cope with natural developments. many thanks again for everything you and your staff are doing to help us get to know what goes on in the wild. good luck for the coming weekend just wish i could be there but as i live too far away i will be there in spirit.
Carol
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 11:18
Oh i am so dissappointed not to be visiting Loch Garten during the osprey season this year. I will miss seeing EJ and her offspring. Thank you Richard for setting out clearly and understandably the logic for intervening this year( the actions of humans rather than natural) and I agree with you about Deshar and the possible reasons for his failure. I have not read any comments yet so I don't know if any fish have come in yet but the family are quiet and look well-fed. Hope this continues for the rest of the season.
redkite2009
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 11:20
Thank you so much Richard for your fasinating and informative blog. Guess it is easy to carried away with the nurturing of these birds but as you remind us, nature must take it's course. Congratulations on your 50th anniversary, I'm sure many of us will be with you all in sprit if not in person. P.S. Can you possible tell us how high up the nest is and how big it is? Just curious Ta
Ali
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 11:20
Thanks Richard! I was in awe of Odin yesterday when he appeared with his 6th fish. Wonderful! I just hope he is having plenty himself too. Have a lovely day on Saturday at LG celebrating 50 years - sorry I am too far away to pop in to join you - I only wish I could. I shall probably be counting birds in my garden for the RSPB survey, if they stay still long enough!
wendymac
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 11:24
ej just landed back with half a tree(or seemed that big - she nearly took the camera out) and is trying to place it on the edge of the nest!! i noticed earlier that c1 was getting mighty close to the edge would she be doing this to build the sides up to prevent it falling?
Margobird
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 11:26
Richard thanks so much for the very interesting and informative update even though I know you must be rushed off your feet at present. So interesting to read what else is going on as well. Like you my smile has got broader and broader as each day passes and fingers crossed for this wonderful osprey family. Carry on the good work Odin you really are "Odin the magnificent", not forgetting EJ as well because she is a wonderful Mum to these very precious chicks. I too hope everyone has a fantastic 50th.
quietwoman
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 11:27
It must have taken a lot of your time to construct and write all that, Richard. Many thanks. Sadly I shall not be able to join you for your 50th. celebrations, so I send many congratulations and I'll raise a glass to Loch Garten Osprey Centre. May it have many more years of successful Osprey, Caper, Red Squirrel etc breeding. I love Redstarts, can they be seen on the web? The males are so colourful and handsome. I agree with your philosophy about the Osprey chicks. the trouble is we get so fond of them all it makes us a bit maudlin
Sheryl
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 11:31
Thank you for the long update, Richard. Much appreciated. It's good to see the chicks doing so well now and fingers crossed this continues. Too far for me to come at the weekend I'm afraid (Essex) but hope the celebrations go well - all the team at LG deserve a good day. Have a wee dram for me :D
Teresa__
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 11:32
Thank you for the update Richard. We are very lucky that you take the time to write them for us and keep us, who can only watch on the web cam, updated on what is going on round and about. We were lucky enough to see our first red squirrels, red starts and capers when we were up there. Enjoy your Golden Anniversary celebrations as you deserve a bit of relaxation - if indeed you get the chance to relax lol I'm sure you will be very busy.
quietwoman
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 11:34
Sorry, didn't get to finish my last blog........Hope you and team LG are still smiling broadly when I get across to the centre in a month's time! Best wishes to you all.
Kitty
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 11:35
Excellent update Richard, thank you. I've just watched as EJ brought in what looked like a small tree! I think she's raising the sides of the nest like a playpen as this feisty lot are real wanderers. I'm too far away (South Wales) to pop in for the weekend but wish you all the best and I'll raise a glass to you from a, hopefully, sunny Gower.
Valc
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 11:36
Thank you Richard for taking the time for such a lengthy update! I wish I was coming over on Saturday but it will be next month before I manage that! So glad that our oprey family are doing so well. They really seem to grow overnight!
ChrisJB
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 11:36
Thanks for the update. It seems every time I log on over the last couple of days the chicks have either been feeding or asleep/replete. I am 500 miles too far away to visit this weekend, but will join you later in the season. For the record,I agree with your rationale on intervention/non-intervention.
VickyBee
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 11:37
Richard, thank you so much for your thoughtful comments and insights. It is such a privilege to be able to see the birds grow and develop -- a privilege we must not abuse, as you say, by telling nature what's what. I appreciate that putting fish in the nest was by no means an easy option for you -- is it a very serious undertaking with untold consequences for the parents and chicks. You and your team make such difficult decisions and it is so wonderful to know that the ospreys receive the attention of such an intelligent, sensitive and respectful team. For me (and I think for others) watching for the first time this year, there is a lot to take on board and some of it is difficult to get your head around, but each of us is far smaller than nature and shouldn't presume to change things to salve our own feelings of grief and helplessness when things don't go, to our minds, "as planned". It is nature's plan, after all. Thanks again for all that you do.
heathermo
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 11:42
Thanks for the update Richard, many questions answered. All chicks are doing well thanks to Odin's supreme fishing skills and hopefully the bad forture of last week is a distant, if not traumatic, memory for out LG family. I totally agree with the Tesco fish delivery, it probably saved the lives of our young chicks. I wont be able to visit 'til August, so good luck for this weekend and your 50th anniversary, I hope the team are planning a wee dram or 2 in recognition of all their hard work. H xx
audrey
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 11:42
Update greatly appreciated, thank you. Re the 50th this weekend, hope the weather stays fine, and a jolly good time is had by all, you deserve it.
jennyw
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 11:47
Thank you, Richard, for all the time you must have spent giving us such a great up-date. More importantly it just shows what careful thought has gone into all your actions and the care and time you and your teams and think tanks etc are giving to these wonderful birds. Now off on the roller-coaster yet again !
Floweringpot
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 11:53
Thanks again to all at Loch Garten. Unfortunately I am unable to visit you all up there. Congratulations on 50 years and here's hoping for 50 more. Thank you so much for giving us the great updates, they are fascinating and add so much to watching the lives of the ospreys whilst they are at Loch Garten and also last year their travels.
P3 Newark
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 11:57
Thank you for the information. It has given us a lot to think about . .
Karen
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 11:58
After reading Richard's update, it suddenly came to me that these three chicks are the "LG Golden Chicks". "Golden", "Anni" and "Versary" sprung to mind!!!!
ValG
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 12:01
Thanks for update. Chicks are all looking good, though #1 is very aggressive! at least the other two are getting some survival practice in early!!!!
MargovR
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 12:01
That was a superb update, answering all the questions bloggers have been flagging up. I fully agree about the "bullying" - I think we humans see it as bullying but it's just the way things are in osprey-land. It must have been hard for you to decide whether to intervene when Odin was off-colour but am sure you did the right thing. And if one of the chicks dies - for example falls out of the nest - that's the way things are too. We in the west have got too soft I think, and don't always see the reality. But here's hoping that Odin keeps up the supply as well as he did yesterday. The chicks certainly look fat and contented.
Anonymous
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 12:02
Thank you for that really down to earth sensible blog. You just make every thing seem right . I couldn't do your job for anything. I'm a vegetarian (not because It's a fad it's just I love admiring live animals so much) Never got a lot of puddings when younger because I wouldn;t eat dinner. So I couldn't make decisions like yours. I hope you all have a wonderful weekendand thanks to the LG team every one for puting up with one emotional old wreck!! xxTish
joyce pate
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 12:06
Does anyone know if a fish has been delivered today?
Jellibellee
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 12:15
Stunning update Richard, Thanks so much for taking the time to write such an imformative piece - good luck with the 50th year weekend celebrations, I was looking at coming up to LG when the kids start the holidays in July, but I'd quite like to come along on saturday now, (but it's looking like he may have to work a 2nd weekend :-( as his collegue broke his leg on Monday).... but we'll wait and see...... Hey does that mean that maybe all the staff will get their long awaited Beer & bar-b-que night on Saturday evening & combine anniversary with wetting the chicks heads maybe? - Either way I hope all at LG have a great weekend - staff and visitors alike - Thanks again Richard :-)
Anne Spiers
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 12:15
Thanks so much for that update, I've been watching with baited breath and agree with everything you say - especially that the behaviour (good and bad) and problems occurring are happening in many more nests over the whole world, and nature has to take its course as it always has done. It's just that we happen to be witnessing it now and it brings out our protective side. But keep up the fantastic work you are doing, and I hope to be able to make it to Loch Garten this year at some stage from South Wales, to see things first hand and make a donation one way or another.
paula
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 12:18
Fabulous lengthy update or us....THANK YOU Richard! Happy 50h Anniversary for the weekend.
Dorothy Wilson
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 12:19
Thank you Richard for a very informative blog. I am an OVS fan as it happens and think he was quite an old man and did not have Odin's stamina. I get the impression that EJ has got herself a young, fit toyboy this year. As for anyone suggesting you remove a chick well that is just astonishing. These birds are not our pets, we are just very very very privileged observers and have no right to do anything more. I will stop there and say nothing stronger.
Soosin
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 12:31
Nice one, Richard, thanks for that, hope calm in the nest n good fishing are the order of the day for a while to come.
Lesley Gadsden
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 12:37
Richard, that's got to be one of your longest updates ever. Thank you so much for all the information. One thing I wanted to query was whether you thought Deshar may have been in poor condition for migration. ~ When you think he broke the record for the longest non-stop flying for a first migration he must have been able to call on reserves to keep him going for so long bless him. One thing I found interesting in the BBC Wildlife mag article was the possible reasoning behind the fact that so many youngsters on their first migration flights south instinctively head west as that instinct has been built into them down through successive generations since they originally came from Scandinavia. If they then headed west they still knew they would hit landfall and would then adjust before turning south. It seems that once they have achieved their first or second migrations successfully then their in-built knowledge takes over and they know where to fly from experience. It is different for the Scottish fledglings so thus they go west and keep going west out across the oceans until exhaustion catches up with them and subsequent disaster. Interesting thinking? x
Brenda H
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 12:44
Richard - Once again thank you for your fully informative and honest blog.We wish we could be with you on Saturday but had already planned to visit in a few weeks time, so although I am sure you will all be very busy, do enjoy yourselves. You all deserve it. Thanks and congratulations to all past and present personnel at LG from a wet and dreary E. Sussex.
Koyah
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 13:00
Thanks for a fab update, hope you all have a great 50th night. Congratulations! :) I was quite traumatised last year re. pecking by Nethy and the loss of chick #3, however, this year with all the info from the LG team i am able to accept the behaviour as it it completely natural/normal. Very interesting theory re. Deshar and lack of food. My Canadian pal (ex pat) is riveted too. Her poor hubby can't get near the PC....lol
PaulaP
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 13:02
How I wish I could get to LG! I will manage it one day, I'm determined, but I won't hold my breath waiting! Thank you Richard for a very good and sensible up-date. I don't like the fighting that goes on between the chicks, but I know it has to happen, how would they survive in the world otherwise? This is why the parents don't interfere, they are doing their job in bringing up three strong, fit chicks. Hopefully! I think because we watch all day, every day, or as much as we can, we tend to see these birds as pets, or toys, instead of what they are, wild birds. I hope all at LG get to enjoy themselves on Saturday, and aren't working too hard, although I know someone has to do it! Congratulations on the 50th anniversary.
ALAN PETRIE
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 13:07
Thanks very much for the comprehensive update and I echo all the other bloggers sentiments regarding the need to feed the chicks with extra fish at that time. I also agree that because it was a man made problem then human intervention was necessary. Lets hope for a calmer time from now until fledging. I also wish you all the best for your 50th Anniversary celebrations at the weekend. Unfortunately I live too far away to attend although I will be there in spirit.
WEE JEANNIE
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 13:08
Thanks for the update, Richard and for explaining everything so well. It all makes absolute sense and we trust you implicitly to make the right decisions regarding our osprey family. It's wonderful to see them back on track - just think what a setback they would have had if you hadn't stepped in with fish, especially for the littlest- he can ill afford a drop in his growth rate at this stage. Don't entirely agree about Deshar, though. After all- he spent a good few weeks in the South, presumably resting and feeding up before he attempted to cross the sea. I don't think he'd have flown as far as he did if he was undernourished - possibly a fault in his inbuilt navigation system? Have a great day Saturday- wish we could be there but not long till July!
Fiona A
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 13:10
Thankyou so much richard for your blog, it's so informative and for a first time Osprey enthusiast I need all the info I can get! Now the Worcester peregrine chicklets are starting to fly the nest so as to speak i have been watching this beautiful little family avidly! The hatchlings are so beautiful and very feisty! Nothing EJ can't handle i'm sure! Best wishes for saturday, weather forecast good i believe, i'm sure it will be a fabulous day. We are currently planning a trip to Loch garten next spring to show our children these amazing birds of prey and all the other wnderful wildlife that there is to see there. Keep up the good work, this blog is fantastic and extremely friendly and welcoming, i'm loving every minute of it!! :)
PaulaP
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 13:11
Poor Odin, fishing in the weather you have up in Scotland! EJ was off the babies and apart from trying to knock the camera out with her wing, looked as though she was going to push Odin off the nest to get the fish!
BigRab74
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 13:11
Thank you Richard for such an informative and structured update - I'm sure I can speak for all the people contributing to this blog when I say we're thankful for such a dedicated team up at LG without whom none of this would be possible. Congratulations on a successful season thus far and we look forward to further positive news as the days and weeks progress. Any update on the amount still outstanding on financing the tagging?
Koyah
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 13:12
Odin just delivered fish in pouring rain. 13.11
Teresa__
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 13:12
Number 2 fish arrived at 13:08. They look a bit bedraggled with all that rain but all being very polite so far
Libs
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 13:13
May I add my thanks Richard. It must be hard keeping us lot happy as well as your visitors to the centre. I wish the Exe estuary wasn't so far from you - otherwise I would be visiting too.
paula
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 13:13
Lunch has arrived. All getting their share with Daddy standing proudly watching his brood. A lovely sight :)
WEE JEANNIE
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 13:15
MargovR - I don't think we're 'too soft' at all - more like compassionate and caring people who can't bear to see any creature suffer, wild or domestic. There are people who torture and kill animals for fun - I know which sort I'd rather be!
Ali
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 13:16
All three chicks lined up being fed peacefully in the rain with the fish delivered at 13.09. What a lovely sight!
paula
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 13:18
..and lol at Karen's suggestion of "Golden", "Anni" and "Versary"! Brilliant.
Koyah
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 13:20
Fish not finished, perhaps due to rain? All under EJ..
MarianP
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 13:21
Thanks, Richard. I totally agree with all that you say - just because we don't see what is happening in nature all the time doesn't mean that it isn't happening. We are being given a unique insight into the rearing of these beautiful wild creatures, and have to accept that their instinct is to survive - and the survival of the species is paramount, even if at times it means that we have to accept things we deem to be cruel. I agreed with you supplying the fish on that one occasion, but to continue to do so in any other circumstances would be wrong. Hope you have a great time at the weekend - I will be coming back up to LG early in July to (hopefully) see the chicks starting to think about "taking off"! Thanks again for the fantastic work you and the team are doing.
Valerie
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 13:32
Thank you Richard for a wonderful update and I totally agree with everything you said , I am sure your fish certainly helped Odin get back on form and also helped EJ and the chicks survive that traumatic time , lets hope from now on things run smoothly especially for Odin - bless him he has done so well to get back where he is . The chicks certainly are looking good and No 1 chick is really feisty but No 2 and 3 know what happens and how to deal with it (if in doubt play dead !!) and No 3 has his way of getting in for food and when feeding happens they are very well organised , all great I think and I cant wait to get to LG to see them all for myself . Thanks again Richard and everyone .
Soosin
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 13:41
Well said Dorothy W.
paula
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 13:45
Oh Odin...another fish? So soon? Goodness me! What a star.
wendymac
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 13:46
is that a record- 2 fish within half an hour!!!! even in a downpour. is he the man(osprey) or what
Dillyross
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 13:46
Two fish within about 30 minutes! Small - but its quantity that counts! All this food must take their minds off the rain.
Jellibellee
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 13:46
13.45 there they were all sitting under EJ's umbrella and then lunch arrived! - Well done Odin :-)
Teresa__
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 13:46
A third fish delivered at 13:44
Koyah
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 13:46
..and another one 13.45 !
PaulaP
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 13:47
Another fish already! I think that's 3 today so far, and in this awful weather? Bless him, Odin's such a worker. It just shows exactly how much under par he was, luckily he didn't have to fish as well as getting rid of the intruders. What a good decision it was to provide those four fish for the nest. Although I do very often wonder what EJ thought when she returned to the nest and found a wonderful hero had managed to deliver 4 fish all at once!
Barbara Jean
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 13:47
Odin, our hero, went fishing in the rain!! EJ is feeding the chicks. They are all lined up peacefully eating
mike hoyle
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 13:51
At this rate the chicks will be too fat to fledge! every time I log on there is a fish in the nest so I have to keep checking the latest updates, even "titch" seems to be muscling in well now. Great news after the traumas of the last week. 3 fledged chicks would be fantastic but let's not forget the old saying about chickens (ok i know that was hatched). Always new Odin would be a great fisherman with his trusty spear. Mike
Jellibellee
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 13:52
Ohhh just realised from other blogs that lunch actually arrived just after 1 - so was that the starter and this is the main, or are the chicks now having pudding? - Odin is such a good provider, the chicks are now getting 2 courses for lunch! - will there be a cheese board? Lol
Alice Potter
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 13:53
Excellent update Richard. Thank you so much for updating those of us who due to distance are unable to get to you right now. Pleased to hear that preventative measures are being taken to stop the littlies falling over the edge! Seems quite perilous to us watchers at times. We do shout at them, but they don't seem to listen to us. Best Wishes to everyone at Loch Garten including the whole reason for this blog.
theoceansswitch
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 13:55
Looks more than a bit wet up there on the nest now - I'm waiting for Osprey nest-building to evolve to include the provision of roofs.
mike hoyle
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 13:55
Richard thanks for your superb updates but I have to say this. Deshar flew nearly 3000k non stop, not many aircraft can achieve this!! OK his compass may have been a bit "iffy"! Mike
MargovR
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 14:02
Wee Jeanie, I understand what you say about being compassionate and caring. I know how I felt about last year's bullying - had to switch off because I couldn't bear it - and how worried I was when Odin got his foot caught in the fishing line and then disappeared - didn't want to watch in case I saw the chicks die one by one through lack of food. I grew up on a farm, and saw the care my father showed about the wellbeing of his animals, but he had no compunction about killing the rabbits and pigeons that ate his crops. I still say people today are too soft. Most of us in the west don't really have practical day to day choices to make about life and death, so the way we look at wild life can be biased as a result. I think Richard and his team have made exactly the right decision about intervention this time, but if a chick got too near the edge of the nest and fell over through its own fault, what would they do then?
Toumcaultin
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 14:09
Well structured and informative update Richard. Many many thanks. I agree with all your points regarding intervention/non-intervention and need say no more. Have a great 50th wish I could be there. Trying hard to sneak a quick weekend visit but at the moment cannot make it before August :-(( Thanks to all the team Best Regards to all.
Margobird
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 14:13
Since I last looked a fish has come in and I was glad to read that. I feel sorry for EJ now trying to keep her brood dry but the largest one no longer fits underneath her so his little bottom is stuck out getting wet. Hope the weather improves so Odin can get on with his job, marvellous that he managed to catch one even in the rain.
Sheila
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 14:28
Thank you so much, Richard. A wonderful update for us, with such wisdom! Deeply grateful.
Margobird
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 14:40

Just popped in again and it seems Odin has delivered again in the pouring rain.  He is my hero well done lad.  I agree that we should not interfere with nature but agreed in this case that fish were put in the nest.  It obviously helped out and the main thing is we still have 3 chicks.

jswscot
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 14:50
Thank you for the update Richard (wow, I think this must be the longest update ever!). I am sure you have answered everyone's questions now. Thank you, once again, for the Tesco delivery for the chicks at such a crucial time. It was absolutely the right thing to do, in my opinion, for what that is worth. Looking forward to Saturday - might even make you all a cake. (Hope Gary isn't reading this!!). Pru
Gary
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 14:51

Thank you so much Richard for the update. There was so much information in it I had to read it twice:)

I won't repeat others comments but I agreed with the intervention when it happened and think it saved at least the youngest chick but unless something equally dramatic happens we should let nature take it's course. It is very hard to watch sometimes but as someone said, we (or me certainly) can forget this family are not for our amusement but it is an incredible glimpse into nature. I feel privileged to be able to watch no matter how hard it is. As always, if it gets too hard we can choose not to watch.

All of you at LG do a fabulous job and congratulations on the anniversary this weekend. Again, like others, I live a little far to make the trip but I wish you every success.

Soosin
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 14:55
no picture so didn't realise you had rain today,aw, hard luck, its lovely here :)
Gary
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 15:04
forgot to add, how important must Odin feel to have his own "think tank group" LOL
SusanD
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 15:09
Thank you for your fantastic blog Richard, I agree totally with what you have done and are saying. I look forward to seeing the chicks grow and grow. Thanks again for keeping us informed.
Babs
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 15:15

Richard many thanks for your update.  Glad that Odin is now back to his usual self, for the time being anyway.  Though it is upsetting to watch when the chicks attack each other I do not believe for a minute that the eldest chick should be removed.  Having grown up with 5 brothers and no sister I understand sibling rivalary only too well!!!!!!! At times I wished my mother had put my oldest brother out of the nest so to speak!!!!!!!  I am sure the small chick will not be any worse off for it.

paula
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 15:22
And yet another fish? They are going to be very fat ospreys!
PaulaP
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 15:22
And another fish for the family, well done Odin!! The proud dad is sitting on the nest, watching his offspring being fed by their mum. It's a lovely picture!
ayjaysea
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 15:23
15.21 .......the fisherman returns again with a prize specimen.
Lesley Gadsden
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 15:23
15.21 and ANOTHER fish!! Oh Odin you really are a star. You seem to speed up in the afternoon! I have to keep interrupting my mass emails that I am sending as I can hear EJ doing her "Daddy's coming" screech and I can't miss the landing! x
Brenda H
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 15:26
Fish at 3.22pm. all three being fed.
Sue Stephen
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 15:26

Really appreciate the detailed report Richard which is very encouraging - just watched the three chicks being fed again. My how they are growing. As you say they are very strong and healthy looking, all three of them.  Quite different from last year.  Got a really good feeling about the outcome. My my what a roller coaster this year but thankfully, for now anyway, things appear to be blossoming. ONE DAY AT A TIME!

Gary
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 15:27
you can't keep a great Osprey down:) Odin delivers another fish at about 3.20pm . What a great job he is doing in bad weather. He hung around a few minutes to get some appreciation and all EJ did was tell him to go and get another one LOL
Brenda H
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 15:38
Oh dear, fish too small. The way chicks are eating, they need one each of that size. EJ only getting tail off that one and I presume Odin only gets the head. Life is too hard being a parent osprey.
BarbaraAnne
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 15:40

Happy Anniversary to all the LG team...I hope to be able to pop in over the weekend to congratulate you all personally..plus bring the cheque for the Sat Nav fund..I agree with everything you said Richard and give thanks that such a strong and capable team are in place this year making sensible decisions...

I also agree with  Dorothy W's blog....well said !!!

Lorraine
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 15:42

Thanks Richard for such an excellant and informative blog update.

I am so glad that Odin has recovered from the fishing line incident, which could have turned out so differently.

Congratulations for your 50th Anniversary this coming weekend...I bet back then, they would never have dreamed how it would all turn out.

If they could know ,how many people now, have such a love for the ospreys they worked so hard to protect...they would know what a stirling job they did.

I hope you all have a wonderful time celebrating and that all continues to go so well with this seasons nest at Loch Garten :)))

Chrissy Beahan
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 16:06
THANK YOU !!! Dear Richard for this wonderful up-date today,, you and all your team can breath a little lighter now,, fingers crossed,, and would that I was nearer for the weekends celebrations,, but I think Worcester is a little to far,,, I to like Soosin agree with everything Dorothy has said, well done girl,,, poor old OVS,, he was just an old boy in need of a good rest home,, he had done his work over the years,, we should be grateful,,, I've said since Odin turned up that EJ is going to have a lot of fun with her new "TOY BOY",,, Sorry to say this to,, BUT I've been calling the chicks "OVEN READY",, as they are so fat,, round,, and cuddly,, I did have a mad moment with names for them,, dare I say them on here without being shouted at,, they are after all only a little bit of a joke on my part,, oh well,, here goes,, please don't shout to loud at me folks,,,,, SAGE,, ONION and PAXO,,,,, There you have then,, not fitting names I know for such Reagal Ospreys,, forgive me !!! Hugs Chrissy XXXXX
Pia
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 16:37

What can I say ...from reading your blog/s Richard I've learnt SO MUCH and I eccho with all others. You are doing a great job there, at LG! I can't visit you, but (again) HAPPY ANNIVERSARY! Haha, I like that name  Karen :)) I agree with people saying, the names are for the LG-team to decide ...even if I think it doesn't hurt anyone if we call them "things" until they will be baptised. Jane A. Thank you so much for your reply :)) I agree, it's fascinating how many people from around the world are following all ups and downs of this beautiful wild family. Best Regards Pia, Sweden

Simon bunce
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 16:42

Richard, thank you for the update: ODIN.......... I think has another more secretive life!? With the events of the last 10 or so days I have come the conclusion that Odin fly’s off to the nearest phone box where a bit of commotion occurs and then he re-appears with his underpants on the outside, a large “S” emblazoned on his chest and a blue cape flapping behind him.............That’s it..............”FISHING MODE” He then returns to the phone box a while later, a bit more commotion and he re-appears in his normal daytime suit and returns to EJ and the wee ones with a fish who are none the wiser and neither are we. This is the only explanation for the number of fish that I can come up with anyway :-)

Barbara Jean
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 16:49
Thanks Richard for the informative update!! I am sure you are very busy with the activities at the center and the last minute details for Saturday's 50th celebration. I wish I lived closer so I could attend. Congratulations on 50 years of great work and best of luck as you march toward your centennial celebration. Some one should write a book about the "first 50 years!!" It would be a great read.
Kathy J
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 16:51
Great to read tha Odin is excelling himself now. Long may it continue. And great report too. Hope you have a great weekend for your 50th celebrations.
Margobird
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 16:57
I am sure there was another fish earlier this afternoon or perhaps it was some that had been left from previous meal.
Lesley Gadsden
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 17:01
Without OVS we would never had dear Deshar or Nethy.x
Margobird
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 17:01
I have just had a good laugh at Simon Bunce's post. That is really funny especially the underpants on the outside with a big S on. Absolute classic and so glad we are all feeling so much better now that Odin is showing us what a real star he is.
Jayne Russell
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 17:02

Thank you for the very informative update Richard, It's so easy for us to join in with the emotional roller coaster here in "cyber" space to sometimes forget the hard work that goes on behind the scenes to allow us all to share in the highs and lows of Osprey lives. Thank you all LG Team for the efforts that you put in and may you be well rewarded with three healthy tagged and ringed youngsters who will continue to give you joy for many more years to come - I wish our circumstances here were such that we could make a visit in person but a disabled father puts paid to that, his needs have to come first - but thanks to you guys I can get my osprey fix on line!!!

Carrie
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 17:08

Wow thanks Richard that was a blog and a half. I have been away for over 3 weeks and it seems I have missed such a lot of trauma and stress but I am now getting into the swing of things again.  Fingers crossed it all goes smoothly from now on....we can hope!

Barbara Jean
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 17:19

Sometimes  intervention also builds trust. The father of a friend of mine lived in Northern Wisconsin ( in the USA)  He has since passed away. He had a massive pine tree on his property where a Bald Eagle built her nest every year. There were a couple of years when she had a mate like  OVS who was a poor provider. He built a  little  table near the tree and would put  fish on it  for her. She  learned to  trust that he was  not a threat. One year she had not left the nest for a couple of days and  he became worried. He put on leather  gloves that went to his  shoulders and " slowly" climbed a 100 ft. ladder to  find out what was  wrong. His neighbor said he was crazy to go near the  Bald Eagle because they can be vicious. He said he had to try to find out what was wrong. When he got up  to the nest he found her leg was entangled in fishing line and she was  trapped  on the nest. She let him  cut the  line and free her!! She never  attacked him! She had learned to trust  him. After she was free she flew to a nearby tree and watched him as he removed the  remaining  fishing line and slowly climbed down the ladder. He never touched  the chicks . He said it was  thrilling to be able to touch a Bald Eagle to free her and  have her trust  him enough to help. He built that trust by leaving  fish for her when her mate  let her down.

Karen
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 17:30
Great news from Carlaverock!! At 9.30am on Monday their first osprey chick hatched. This is the first osprey chick to hatch out in Dumfriesshire in over 100 years. Marvellous!!!
Karen
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 17:33
17:33 - Odin has just arrived with a fish. He doesn't half just fly in at some speed, he just missed landing on the chicks!!!!
PaulaP
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 17:33
Oh bless! Here's Odin again, with another fish. He hasn't stayed around long this time though, maybe he needs a rest somewhere before he goes for another fish!
Valerie
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 17:34
Odin is doing so well another fish bless him - he always looks so proud when he brings one in , what an osprey he is .
paula
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 17:35
Another fish. I'm soon going to run out of fingers to count them on. Is that number 5 or 6?
Barbara Jean
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 17:35
Another fish delivery!!
Soosin
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 17:35

Just in and another fish being delivered to the nest, how many IS that today?

 

REPLY:  Five, so far.  Nice card btw.  -  Richard

Barbara Jean
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 17:38
The chicks are so close to EJ and the fish I wonder if they are helping her tear up the fish. LOL She has her back to the camera so I can't see.
patriciat
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 17:44

Richard, do you ever sleep?  What a wonderful, comprehensive update so early in the morning.  For the record, I agree with all yyour comments.  Sorry I won't get to LG this year (well, not while the Centre is open - I have to wait to October).  Have a wonderful Golden Anniversary weekend.  I'll be thinking of you all.

 

REPLY:  I hibernate for several weeks once the season's all over!  -  Richard

Benjji
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 18:18
Happy 50th Anniversary! Best of luck to Odin and everyone else at LG
ALICAT
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 18:20

thanks richard for the update,im new to blogs been watching for a few years and read all your blogs throught i would give it a go myself, does anbody know how many fish today odin has brought in,congratulations on your 50th anniversary sorry i wont be able to

make this weekend too far just for the weekend as live in east yorkshire hoping to get later in the year i have been to lg a few times but missed last year so maybe get this year

Maureen
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 18:39
Thanks for your report Richard. Wonderful. Your decision to help EJ/Odin last week was the right one. As for the 'bullying', I think we should mind our own business and let them DEVELOP as Nature dictates.
Mitch
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 18:41

Richard thank you for the marvellous update. I couldn't agree more with you about the 'pecking order' within the three siblings. Many a time I have seen Springwatch report on smaller, younger chicks being killed and eaten by their bigger, older siblings, the barn owls in the Gardens of Heligan being a prime example. Food was scarce that year and only the biggest chick survived by eating the smaller ones and ditto with a buzzard nest the year after. It is nature 'red in tooth and claw' and should not be interfered with when conditions are prime for these birds to make it on their own. I'm sure you're right, barring accidents or ill-health it looks entirely possible that all three will make it this year. Fingers are firmly crossed that Odin can continue his wonderful work rate. I did think about driving up from Devon on Friday night and sleeping in my car in your car park but unfortunately won't be able to. Hopefully I shall get up to see you all next year as it's now been 3 years since I was there. The webcam is brilliant for keeping in touch with what's going on but is not the same as seeing these magnificant birds in the flesh. I hope to go back to the fish farm at Rothiemurchus to watch them fishing too.

PaulaP
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 18:41

Can I hear a woodpecker somewhere near the nest? It sounds very like it, think it's stopped now. No, surely not, in the rain you are having at LG?

 

REPLY:  Indeed.  Great Spotted Woodpecker.  -  Richard

BarbaraAnne
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 18:45

Been out and about near LG today,,goodness me the Spey river is very swollen with all the rain !! It will make it harder for dear Odin to fish if in fact he goes there..There is even 10 cm of snow forecast for the tops of the Cairngorms this week...He better get his skis out again!! It must be very very different from the blistering heat that they are used to in Africa.!!!

I presume Richard that it is just the food source they come for to breed here and not the weather ?

 

REPLY: Yes, plus the long day-length this far north at this time of year.  It's light now at 3.20am and not dark until gone 11pm.  A long day in which to be able to fish and rear a family, hence those late arriving fish by Odin.  A more extreme example are the birds that migrate to the high Arctic, like wading birds, able to use 24 hours of daylight up there, to rear a family making the long trek worthwhile, plus the abundabce of food for them up there of course.   They have to gamble on the weather.  -  Richard

Barbara Jean
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 19:14
I think #! is definately a female. It's call for food sounds very much like EJ's. I don't think males call for food.
DjoanS
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 19:15

Thank you Richard for that excellent update - I agree with everything you said ... after all you and your team (plus the 'Think-Tank Group') are the experts! I hope you have a brilliant 50th Celebration at LG. I have been up in the Tweed Valley today & saw the Glen Tress cameras at the Centre there ... great viewing but makes me appreciate even more having it 24/7 on my computer at home. I have seen ospreys in Canada before but was absolutely thrilled when on the drive home we saw our first REAL LIVE NATIVE osprey flying over our heads ... I'm still churning inside ... softie or what?  :))

vivienne L
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 19:19

Hi all.  Richard is coming up trumps this year with the education of us all ( well those ,like me,who need it) and the information as well. I feel I am a small part of something wonderful, despite the disappointments now and then.

As promised I will be up next week to enrol my 3 granddaughters. They know they are coming to see the big scottish birds on their nest.  They can perhaps then recruit their class mates when they get back!! Hope to see you all Tuesday perhaps!!

REPLY:  Make yourself known to the team when you arrive and we'll do all we can to make their visit all the more memorable - a look behind the scenes perhaps in the Forward Hide from where our volunteers conduct the 24/7 surveillance.  Volunteers of the future perhaps.   If I'm not there, ask for Claire.  -  Richard

 

Jandy
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 19:29

I spend a lot of time watching Odin the Magnificent, EJ the Superb and their brood, and reading all the blogs, but I very often don't get the 'leave a comment' box at the end of the page so can't always join in - anyone else have that problem?  It seems to be totally random. Haven't the last couple of days been amazing!  So many fish: long may it last.  I'm now often having difficulty working out which chick is which - and all the different names that others call them are just too much for my poor head!

Kitty, I'm so pleased you wrote about the true meaning of 'survival of the fittest'.  I've wanted to do that since last year, but I'm aware of my tendency to be pedantic (teacher!).  In biological terms, the fittest is the one that leaves behind the greatest number of offspring, who themselves reach reproductive age, and very often the species which has evolved because of its ability to adapt to its environment is far from 'fit' in the everyday sense - think of the two-toed sloth, not to mention the slug!  I now dare to sound pendantic: I understand 'fledge' mean the acquisition of a full set of feathers, but it seems to be used here to mean to fly.  Is this a specialised birding use, anyone?  And, at the risk of overdoing it, I really want to add my thanks to Richard the Wonderful and all the team.  I so admire you all.

vivienne L
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 19:34
hi again just looked at Goshawks live video - what on earth has happened? Anyone know!!
Soosin
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 19:34
The Wild Islands programme is definitely on STV tomorrow at 9pm don't know about elsewhere in the country.
Soosin
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 19:56
#1 having a job trying to get in under EJ
Soosin
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 20:03

 Watching the two mothers just now, EJ and Lowes. sheltering their chicks from the rain, as they do from the Sun also and don't think it can be very comfy for them  having their wings mantled for such long times. Do birds suffer such diseases as arthritis?

 

REPLY:  Got me there!!  Never been asked that before!  But as they've got bones, like us, why wouldn't they?  I guess.  -  Richard

Anonymous
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 20:05

Congratualtions Dumfiesshire Well done!!!

Barbara Jean: What a lovely moving story.  And I knew that was a woodpecker.  I have a great spooted  woodie on a telephone pole at the side of the house and he chunters away on that.  Bonny birds!! Gotta go.  Footaball starting!!

Soosin
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 20:06
Glad you liked it, reminded me of an Autumnal Abernethy Forest
Pia
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 20:11
Barbara Jean, thanks for sharing your beautiful story.
paula
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 20:16
Barbara Jean, what a lovely story about the Bald Eagle. It brought a tear to my eye. Thank you for sharing it :)
Soosin
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 20:22

LOL, probably a thought I should have kept to myself. But good to flummox you.

Elizabeth
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 20:25
#1 chick seems to get more itchy day by day........new feathers coming through, must be comparable to a baby teething. Delighted to see all has settled down at LG and the chicks becoming plumper with each passing day :)
Suzyblu
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 20:26
Thanks for the update Richard. Congratultions Loch Garten on 50 years....you must be doing something right!!LOL You do a wonderful job which we all appreciate it's thanks to you we have a happy family unit this year. Long may they all remain healthy!!!!
Cirrus
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 21:15

Well, I really don’t know what’s been going on with my computer. I kept closing and reopening my browser so I would catch Richard’s new blog that he told us that was coming but it didn’t seem to go up until this evening as far as I was concerned. So I kept reporting the fish on the previous blog. Four fish up to the time I left for work (16.15 pm). I read of one more and something past 17 00 pm on the latest blog and no more after that (??). Anyway, I’m now going to make a cup of coffee and enjoy Richard’s blog.

Barbara Jean
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 21:17
My friend's father only left fish on the table when the Bald Eagle had a mate who didn't provide enough. As soon as he would see her returning to the nest with a fish he knew the chicks were old enough for her to leave alone to go fishing. Then he stopped leaving fish for her. He didn't want her to become dependent on him for food. He was retired and spent a lot of time watching the nest with a telescope.
John Harwood
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 21:18
What a wonderful update again Richard, it's nice to hear better news and hopefully we will see Odin bringing home the bacon (or fish) as he has done today for the rest of the season. Soosin, if you have Sky HD you can program in STV1, I know as I have just done it. It's really easy for anyone who doesn't normally get it. Congratulations to all concerned on your 50 year anniversary, it was certainly the right decision at the time to publicise where the nest was, who would have thought that it would prove to be so successful. Just over 3 weeks till we come to Scotland, can't wait :-)
Margobird
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 21:18
Barbara Jean what a truly heart warming story. It does seem as though animals/birds can learn to trust us when there needs are great. So pleased that Magnificent Odin has been in with another fish, bless him the weather has looked awful on and off today. Another night when the chicks will have full bellies.
Cirrus
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 21:33
Thank you Richard for a great blog and for the time it must have taken to write it. I really don't understand why it didn't show up in my 'favourties' list this morning. Maybe I should just go directly to the site and not use the 'subscribe to this page' icon. Whatever, it is indeed a great turn around and I look forward to the actually naming of all three chicks which I am certain will fledge without incident. Thank you for the Tesco fish and I understand that the family are 'on their own' now. I shall be hiking (as usual) this Saturday but my heart and thoughts will all be in LG with you all of you. May it be a tremendous day for the centre.
Chrissy Beahan
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 21:43

Hi All,

Just popped in before I go out "Bat Watching", here in Worcester,, Everything seems ok at both Osprey nests,,,EJ was napping for a little bit then,, but I think she has heard something ??? Nope,, all seems well and it's back to a well earnt nap again,,,Bless her,,,,

Isla,,  meanwhile at Lewes,, would you believe is doing just the very same thing,,,,, Odin is perhaps in his phone box changing his underwear,,,, and Angus at Lewes is probably doing what he loves doing best, tidying something,, he suffers terribly from OCD,, I'm surprise tonight he isn't in the nest cleaning,,,,,,

Have fun watching the rest of the evening all,, my Bats await,, speak tomorrow if this page will let me post ????

Take care all

Chrissy

XXX

Soosin
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 21:54
Got it selected on my planner, thanks John
Wattle15
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 22:09

What a lovely, long, well thought out blog, Richard!  Thank you.  Congratulations on the 50th anniversary.  I wish I could be there, but it's a bit far and a bit too expensive to come from Australia! LOL.

I totally agree with the reasoning behind your intervention with the 'Tesco' fish.  The problems Man creates, Man should fix.  Full credit also must go to the intelligence and wisdom of EJ in accepting the fish, which would certainly have had human odour attached to them, and not be as fresh as those delivered by Odin.  She is a very experienced lady, who has herself been ringed by humans, with no ill-effects.  Over the years, she has seen her chicks taken from the nest by humans, ringed, and then returned safely to the nest, also with no ill-effects.  She knows the human smell well by now.  I have absolutely no doubt that EJ knows how the fish arrived at her nest, and was very careful to ration them so the 'human' food lasted as long as possible.  Clever girl, EJ!

Cirrus
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 22:14
Jandy, re the comment box. Just ‘sign in ‘ again and it will appear at the bottom of the page.
mozziecat
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 22:49

Only caught up with this this evening. Fantastic post, thank you very much. Really interesting comments as well, I love when people have fun. The comment box appears when you are logged in.  On some computers I am always logged in, and on some I am usually logged in when I open the page. However, sometimes, like this evening, I am not , so I just logged in to do this.  The Login is at the top of the page on the right, on the black border.  EJ looks like she is trying to sleep, but the chicks are restless, ah, motherhood! I find them so much easier when they have left home!

Barbara Jean
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 22:57
Biggie is getting huge!! He/she stood up and it's head was as high as EJ's when she is sitting down. EJ has been trying to make space for all 3 chicks under her, but even with her wings mantled there isn't enough space for all 3 to be totally covered. Biggie is grumbling about the crowded accommodations. EJ certainly has her "wings full" with this brood!
HeatherB
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 23:20

Have been watching and enjoying  - a new blogger ! Have to concur with others regarding nature's way. My husband, a farmer, while so enjoying daily events in EJ's nest just says' the strongest will survive and just don't get emotional about it!' (Easier said than done--)

paula
Posted on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 at 23:21
Just wanted to thank those blggers who suggested places to stay near LG; much appreciated, thank you :)
BarbaraAnne
Posted on Thursday, 11 June 2009 at 1:00

Thank you Richard for answering my question. One forgets about the breeding birds in the Artic and the long daylight hours that allow them to fish for longer allowing faster growth rate.

These chicks are certainly putting a big growth spurt on. I hope too that it will make them strong for their migration and hopefully all in the right direction this time. As I am moving to France soon I will be directly under the ( normal )migration from the UK so will be waiting with baited breath and binoculars for the fly over.!!! Friends there saw 3 Osprey last year resting and fishing in a lake just above Bergerac so I am keeping my fingers crossed...

Barbara Jean
Posted on Thursday, 11 June 2009 at 4:42
Odin just brought in a whopper!! As he flew off EJ peeped a " Thank you! "
Barbara Jean
Posted on Thursday, 11 June 2009 at 4:58
EJ fed #'s 2 & 3 first. They turned and waddled away stuffed and #1 continued to eat until the fish was gone. EJ got quite a bit too. EJ didn't call for more fish I think all of them are stuffed!!
June Spradlin
Posted on Thursday, 11 June 2009 at 5:14

Just watched Odin deliver fish at 4:41 am UK time (still Wed 11:41p.m. here in USA).  EJ seems to be feeding #2 most, then #3.  # 1 keeps trying to get some, but no bullying. First # 3 then #2 seem satisfied & turn away, while mama feeds #1, then finishes the fish herself with a large portion of whatever is left.  The chicks have huddled together and she immediately covers them.  It is now 4:57 UK time.

Cirrus
Posted on Thursday, 11 June 2009 at 7:37

07.30 am and it looks to be a fine bright morning at LG. No sign of fish in the nest but then the entire fish gets eaten these days and it’s a clamour for an encore immediately! I’m hoping one of you early risers or fans living in different time zones may know of a  breakfast fish already brought to the nest? All is calm, EJ

standing taking in what must be a spectacular view.

redkite2009
Posted on Thursday, 11 June 2009 at 7:45
The family all seem very contented this morning. EJ has left a few times and the chicks didn't fight. EJ seems very calm and not calling for Odin, does this mean she isn't hungary?
Cirrus
Posted on Thursday, 11 June 2009 at 7:46
The first fish that I know of arrived at 07.46
Karen
Posted on Thursday, 11 June 2009 at 7:47
07:46, Odin delivers breakfast!!!
redkite2009
Posted on Thursday, 11 June 2009 at 7:47
Spoke too soon. Odin arrived with large fish to quite a loud greeting from EJ
Maureen
Posted on Thursday, 11 June 2009 at 7:51
7.47am...."Breakfast delivery chicks"!! "Our dad is the best dad in the world". "Mmmmm, delicious".
Maureen
Posted on Thursday, 11 June 2009 at 7:53
Sorry, I forgot to say it was a HUGE fish.
Kitty
Posted on Thursday, 11 June 2009 at 7:53
Chrissy Beahan - I'll be bat watching on Gower on Saturday. My friends have pipistrelles and noctules in their roof - over 150 at the last count and it's just a small cottage! The little and large of the bat world - it's wonderful to watch them streaming out of a purpose-built hole in the gable - the pipistrelles come out under the eaves. I think it's one of the largest colonies of noctules in Wales. Anyway back to ospreys. It's a quiet scene there in the sun so I assume there's been a morning fish. I'll be away until Tuesday so I'm making the most of this lovely morning and my cuppa with the birds. How will I cope without my daily fix? Suppose I'll have to make do with skylarks, buzzards and red kites! And I've heard the choughs are back to breed again so that's one to look for - how wonderful would that be choughs back on the cliffs of Gower? I'll let you all know if I see them. Fantastic Odin - I'm just about to go and he's brought in a fish. Thanks mate, just what I needed to see before logging off. Whoop!
Jellibellee
Posted on Thursday, 11 June 2009 at 7:58
Whilst I was catching up with all the blogs, Odin must have delivered breakfast (which I missed! boo hoo) 'cos EJ is now feeding the chicks - is this fish no 1 or was there one earlier this morning?
Maureen
Posted on Thursday, 11 June 2009 at 8:01
I don't think we need worry about chick 3...he/she got the lions share of breakfast. Chick 2 had a good feed and 'numero uno', just wandered in and out to eat when he/she felt like it. I love this wee family.
Echo
Posted on Thursday, 11 June 2009 at 8:14

Logged on at approx 7.45am to see a lovely scene of contented domesticity of EJ sitting proudly watching 3 healthy,chubby chicks.Then handsome Odin flies in with "breakfast" which EJ efficiently distributes. Odin stays just long enough to see all is in order and check if anything is needed. All ok, so off he goes. Chicks full to the brim and flop in a heap to sleep and grow. Wonderfull!!!

patriciat
Posted on Thursday, 11 June 2009 at 8:30
EJ has been calling for food since I logged in and now a baby has joined in! Poor din, he won't get much peace to sit around in trees for a while. The joys of osprey fatherhood.
Cirrus
Posted on Thursday, 11 June 2009 at 8:37
Well, three quarters of an hour after fish one (the one at 07.46) EJ is still clamouring for more fish. Is this ‘cos she can see Odin and wants him off fishing?
Cirrus
Posted on Thursday, 11 June 2009 at 8:40
Thank you Barbara Jean and June Spradlin for the first fish report; so the fish I saw delivered was fish two. Great Odin. But obviously EJ is not satisfied.
Karen
Posted on Thursday, 11 June 2009 at 8:59
Is it a bird? Is it a plane? No its SUPERODIN. Simon Bunce, I just loved your blog!!! I’ve visions of you in front of your PC humming “doo doo doo, da dida da doo” - you all know the tune!!!! LOL
Soosin
Posted on Thursday, 11 June 2009 at 9:28
Morning, hope you're in for a drier day today. At work but not for long today so will see nest at lunch time. Richard have spoken to Rheumatologist this morning lol and Yes they do. . Lots of information from Museum records apparently - espesh in the ankle since its similar structure to our knee and the elbow also, tho not as common. He went on at great length actually, !!! - don't feel quite as silly now, but mibby he was being HUMOROUS
fiery
Posted on Thursday, 11 June 2009 at 9:38
Plain sailing has returned to EJ and brood after a few fraught and worrying episodes. Great to see Odin back on form and the intruders less vigorous... fingers crossed this will continue through to fledging. Good work LG team, and good decisions... just the right delicate balance IMHO. Have a super day on your 50th, and here's to the next 50(+) and may all RSPB work go from strength to strength. PS... who was the lucky winner of the competition, and is there a link to all the entries? ... I'd half hoped mine would be in with a shout... trout for dinner at the 'Boat' of course :-) Never mind, I'll try my luck at the centenary!
Elizabeth
Posted on Thursday, 11 June 2009 at 9:42
Contented scene on the nest at the moment, other than #1 chick putting #3 into his place after he had the audacity to have a pop at his elder sibling!!! Heads down and sunbath for a while and continue digesting last meal before Odin comes back with elevenses or lunch. I have been glued to this site since the first egg was laid and will be so relieved when all three chicks fledge and make their first flight. Thanks to all at LG for their informative updates and comments. I have been up to LG twice now and will drop in again soon.
redkite2009
Posted on Thursday, 11 June 2009 at 9:43
Thanks to June Spradlin on her early fish report. I thought it was strange that EJ wasn't around when I logged on about 7 and the chicks were actually being 'buddy buddy'. Richard did suggest the agression is usually worse when the brood is hungary. Hopefullyit's back to a good routine now and they will all be strong for their migration although Little'un has a long way to go.
Cirrus
Posted on Thursday, 11 June 2009 at 9:43
Oh yes, a whacking great thick twig to reinforce nest edges brought in at 09.40 by EJ. Obviously wanting all the chicks to STAY in the nest. And Eldest can sure get around the nest space these days. EJ off again on a mission but nothing brought back, she must be waiting for the sales.
Maureen
Posted on Thursday, 11 June 2009 at 9:45
WEEJEANNIE....I agree with you 100% we are not 'too soft' and like you I'd rather be known for my caring and compassion. What a joy to behold this year..... three BIG beautiful, healthy chicks. I swear they were only half this size last year. I just hope they will not be too heavy for 'lift-off'.
Derek Edge
Posted on Thursday, 11 June 2009 at 9:47
It's good to see all is now going so well at the LG Osprey nest, our local Ospreys here in Dodds wood Bassenthwaite also have 3 chicks so let's hope 2009 is going to be a bumper year for producing good healthy birds that will return in years to come and populate more areas of our great British countryside.
Cirrus
Posted on Thursday, 11 June 2009 at 9:56
Rocky too can help reinforce the nest edge with her strong little beak (09.54)! Looking over the edge and trying her wings out for size – my heart in my mouth despite the little one having done some reinforcing of the twigs.
Margobird
Posted on Thursday, 11 June 2009 at 10:02
First log in of the day and I can see Odin has been fishing twice already. What a boy he is and how lucky EJ is that he chose her to be the mother of his chicks. All is wonderful with our osprey family at the moment and long may it continue.
Lesley Gadsden
Posted on Thursday, 11 June 2009 at 10:02
Barbara Jean I really loved the Bald Eagle story - found it very moving and restores your faith a little in humankind. x
John B
Posted on Thursday, 11 June 2009 at 10:34
A great start to the day from Odin, Have the Goshawks fledged?
Cirrus
Posted on Thursday, 11 June 2009 at 10:40
Is that a Blackcap I can hear, making a single note call, 'twee' or some such, repeated?
BarbaraAnne
Posted on Thursday, 11 June 2009 at 11:05
Thank you June for telling us about the 4.40 fish delivery this morning. It confirms my earlier blogs and Richards answer re the reasons the Ospreys fly the long journey to breed here giving them the long daylight hours to fish !! Weather up here is good today, the sun is shining at last and will allow them all to dry out a bit ! But it is Midgy so anyone visiting do remember your Skin So Soft by Avon 'Forest ( something)' as it really works against the 'teeth on wings' blighters..... You will need it. By the way June I was really dissapointed that the Aubusson? ( think I have spelt that wrong) webcam is down this year as I watched the 4 American Ospreys through to fledging last year which was wonderful...They are so much bigger than the European Osprey...
BarbaraAnne
Posted on Thursday, 11 June 2009 at 11:11
11.06... Big is really exploring his surroundings now, he is very near the edge of the nest and peering over and his eyesight is now there as he is peering down at everything....EJ not at all perturbed by this..The only thing about them being so well fed is that they will fledge earlier I guess....Is that the case Richard???
mozziecat
Posted on Thursday, 11 June 2009 at 11:17
11.12 Opened blog a few minutes ago to see EJ standing a the back of the nest and the chicks exploring around the nest. #1 came clambering up the side towards the camera. EJ waited till they were all back towards the centre and then flew off. I thought she was off for exercise, but she quickly arrived back with a big stick which she has fitted in somewhere around the side. It looked like she was thinking "I'll soon stop your little game, mate!"
BarbaraAnne
Posted on Thursday, 11 June 2009 at 11:17
11.13...EJ takes off for a short exercise flight... I remember from last year you telling us that it is quite uncomfortable for adult Ospreys to stand flat footed on the nest, hence her alternating from foot to foot occasionally to rest them and taking flights to aleviate the pressure...Those feet are designed for gripping around a branch...
Simon bunce
Posted on Thursday, 11 June 2009 at 11:27
On from my earlier blog, it’s a shame that we can’t post photographs here as today I now have photographic evidence of my theory on Odin’s antics! We are about 15 minutes as the Osprey fly’s from the nest and site, we are also in the flight path (or at least one of them) for RAF Lossiemouth. As usual the daily racket occurs and by chance I popped out the back door fully expecting to see a Tornado or Eurofighter which I was hop