Loch Garten osprey diary

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You've not missed Mallachie's first flight......

It's 7pm Sunday and as I type, Mallachie has not yet fledged the nest, so you haven't missed anything major.

However, late morning today, after 30+hours of non-stop rain of varying intensity, it finally stopped.  It dried up a bit, the sun came out, it got warmer and a fairly stiff breeze got up too.  I don't mean to taunt you given that you still cannot see what is going on, but I'm afraid that these would now make for perfect conditions for fledging, given that Mallachie is probably overdue to take the plunge, having been kept firmly rooted to the nest by the atrocious wet weather this weekend.  If these conditions persist this evening she just might do it, but if not, then I reckon it will be tomorrow if it stays fair, as I feel she is ready to go.

At intervals today she spent time vigourously flapping her wings, and had she not been firmly gripping the nesting material at the nest-edge, effectively holding her down, she would have been up, up and away.  I don't need to tell you that the webcam is still down, but we will strive to have it functioning tomorrow morning, hoping to beat Mallachie in the race againt time before she fledges.

Meantime, at the nest today, Rothes was absent for about an hour and half, no-doubt off somewhere exploring, enjoying her new-found freedom and independence and honing those flying and soaring skills.  She will not have gone far, and was soon back when she got hungry.

At 6pm I phoned the Centre to see how the day had been.  Ian reported that at that point three fish had been brought in, including what he described to me as another "whale" brought in by EJ.  Whenever she goes out to fish, to help provision the family, she does seem to return with whoppers, far bigger fish than Odin catches. He too has brought in some good sized fish this season, but nothing that compares to the whale-sized offerings from EJ.  Why is this?  With the webcan being down, what now follows is another of those Cliff-singing-at-Wimbledon moments, to keep you informed and interested in what's going on at a time when you cannot see what's happening.

The simple reason why EJ catches and returns with bigger fish than him is because she is a bigger, more powerful bird than he is, and so able to carry a heavier payload than he possibly could.  It's not just these two, all female ospreys are bigger than males.  In fact virtually all female birds of prey of whatever species are bigger than their male couterparts.  This is true for four out of the five bird of prey families in the world, with just one exception, whereas in all other bird families world-wide the males are either the bigger bird or are the same size.  Only in raptors (plus owls & skuas - also predators) does this occur.  It is called reversed size dimorphism (size difference).

So what's all that about then?  Well, it is an adaptation to their raptorial lifestyle, linked to diet.  Male raptors are smaller than females because by being smaller they can supply frequent meals for the females and young - a case of little & often, if you like, because males specialise in smaller prey items, which are generally more abundant in the environment as species and as individuals, than are larger prey items, be they mammals, insects, birds or, in the osprey's case, fish.  Later in the season, females by being larger can supplement the efforts of males at a time when the growing family need all the more food the most. This coincides with a time when females can leave the well-grown young unattended and so freeing them up to lend a hand to raise the family. Being larger more powerful birds, they can drawn upon prey from a wider size spectrum - larger fish in EJ's case, catching fish that are too large and heavy for Odin.  Hence the "whales" she has been returning with.

Larger female size in raptors confers other advantages too, in theory.  Larger size means dominance, this helps promote successful pair formation, helps secure prey items from the males by making them surrender food, it helps prevent males potentially harming females and can help prevent males, accustomed to killing, from possibly killing their own young (not known in ospreys, I don't think).  If you watched the goshawks on Springwatch you might have picked up on Simon King saying that the male goshawk is often afraid of his much larger female, barely visiting the nest, and if he does, he does so very briefly before getting out of there, fast.

Interestingly, in raptors, seemingly the faster and larger the prey, the greater the extent of this reversed size dimorphism.  In vultures that eat dead things (carrion) - which doesn't move (!) the males and females are virtually the same size.  Yet in some of the hawks and falcons, who prey on other birds which are clearly faster moving prey than carrion, the size difference between males and females is all the more marked, like the goshawks for example.

Anyway, enough for now.  Hope that keeps you informed, interested and curious.  And once again, sorry for the lack of pictures from our osprey nest, but rest assured that all's well.

Posted by richard thaxton at 18:52 on 19 July 2009.  96 comments

Comments

jax
Posted on Sunday, 19 July 2009 at 20:40

Hi guys, I haven't been able to blog for a while, been nursing a sick husband.  Not swine flu, thank god, had a major operation on his back so he can't do anything for himself at the mo - no change there then!!!  In regards to the female Osprey being bigger than the male cos she brings in the "bigger" feed, that don't surprise me either - us females always do more work than you males out there!!!  No offence to the male of the species but it is true LOL !!!!

Anyways, don't know when I will be able to blog again cos the "work police" are in now, not even able to visit the blog site let alone leave a comment.  So it will be in the evenings at some stage, after I have cooked for my hubby, done the washing up, tucked him in bed, blah blah blah ...............

Have enjoyed reading all your post's guys, keep it up cos that is where I get all my info from!

DjoanS
Posted on Sunday, 19 July 2009 at 20:45

Thanks, Richard for taking time to do that that fascinating update ... glad all is well at the nest, and that the rain has stopped! I found your info about raptors most interesting ...  I have been reading up about sparrowhawks as they sometimes visit my garden to take birds from around my bird table and it seems that is a similar case.

And thanks Annette for the Africa webcam link ... absolutely superb :)

Josie
Posted on Sunday, 19 July 2009 at 20:52

Mmmm, a lot of that relates to humans too, me thinks.  LOL

I am really missing the exploits of the three girls and hope upon hope that I see Mallachie fledge, with Garten following shortly after.  Thanks Richard for all the updates and information and I hope 1) that the decorating went well!! and 2) that the webcame is up and running tomorrow.

Heather
Posted on Sunday, 19 July 2009 at 21:00
sorry about camera but thank you so much for full and imformative updates!!!!
Lindybird
Posted on Sunday, 19 July 2009 at 21:13

Glad it finally stopped raining, Richard - thought you might have to get out the do-it-yourself books on 'how to build an ark'...  Thanks for the interesting info on the differences between the sexes of birds of prey. We all join in wishing you Good Luck in getting the equipment fixed soon, purely from our own selfish point of view!

ValG
Posted on Sunday, 19 July 2009 at 21:25

Great update, thanks. When do you all sleep, relax. forget about ospreys???? Looking forward sooooo much to getting pictures back soon. Good luck tomorrow

Anonymous
Posted on Sunday, 19 July 2009 at 21:33

Welcome back BigRab.  Missed your videos!!     Thanks you Richard for all that info  it's really engrossing .Pity my brain doesn't absorb so much these days .  

Maureen do you reckon they are waiting for us.  It would be bliss if they did..!!:)))

And somebody switch off the the rain and wind and bring on the summer....So many weeds in the garden.  Perhaps I shall; leave it as God intendedLOL                                                                                                                      

Anonymous
Posted on Sunday, 19 July 2009 at 21:35
And thank you also Debbie. We now have two blogs on the go smile!! Enjooy your two days off. THat's all you're getting so enjoy them!! XXX
wendymac
Posted on Sunday, 19 July 2009 at 21:50

hello to everyone. just had to come on and say what a fantastic weekend we have had up at LG. we arrived friday in time for the centre opening and walked in to see EJ and Rothes sitting in the camera tree- if it wasnt for Rothes ariel it would have been difficult to tell mum and daughter apart. Then we watched as EJ fought off a very persistant intruder, boy is she one fiesty mum! Then to actually see Rothes take a flight around the nest and back to the camera tree was totally amazing-the landing gear was a bit stiff and the runway was a bit slippy, but after a couple of laps she seemed as though she had been doing it for weeks. Mallachie and Garten were not to be outdone and had a few practice flaps and leaps off the nest. at one point i think everyone in the centre at the time could be heard saying "go on girl you can do it", but the weather was truly terrible and they both obviously thought better of it. Odin brought fish then EJ brought fish and more flapping and mock take offs by the two girls-Rothes had gone back to her tree by this time. we went back on Sat afternoon but the weather was no better, although Mallachie did have hearts in mouth a few times, it was just so damp and miserable for them to do much. Sun morning we arrived just as they were tucking in to a rather large fish that EJ had delivered and they were not going anywhere fast after such a huge meal. Rothes did take herself off and still had not returned when we reluctantly left at 12.15pm. can i just take this opportunity to say thanks to the team: Richard- i know you were busy with your vip on friday but it was very much appreciated that you took the time to introduce yourself and acknowledge our presence (the lgb teeshirt was a bit of a giveaway). Debbie- it was lovely to meet you and thank you for being so friendly and patient with us. David, Malcolm, Paula and Ian thanks for all the information and friendliness. Special thanks to Ian for all the info on volunteering. We also became members whilst there on friday (shame on me for not doing it sooner) and can i say to anybody thinking about it- the welcome pack alone is worth the fee(thats not why we joined-it was a lovely added bonus)and to anyone 'thinking' about visiting- don't think DO IT. even if you are not into Ospreys!!!!!! there is an abundance of wildlife to keep you interested ( i saw my first close up of a great spotted woodpecker) and the staff have such passion and enthusiasm when they talk about their work that you will not be disappionted. sorry if this is long winded but just had to share my excitement and thanks to all concerned. P.S. hope you all enjoyed the chocolate.

Bodie
Posted on Sunday, 19 July 2009 at 21:54
Thankyou so much for the information its fascinating, I'm really missing EJ Odin and the girls, goodness knows what we will do when they have all gone, cant wait now to see them again.
lynda
Posted on Sunday, 19 July 2009 at 22:16
Richard - thank you for that fascinating report. If and when you have the time, I for one would like to learn more.
ALAN PETRIE
Posted on Sunday, 19 July 2009 at 22:21

Thanks Richard and Debbie for keeping us up to speed on what has been happening at the nest. Hopefully we will see Mallachie and Garten fledging in due course. In the meantime I have had to console myself by watching the birdies at the Open golf. There were also some eagles and even an albatross was reported although I did not see it.

Elly1
Posted on Sunday, 19 July 2009 at 22:24
Do you know, Richard, for a moment I ALMOST forgot about the cameras! Ta!
piglet
Posted on Sunday, 19 July 2009 at 22:35

Richard, thankyou for that fascinating explanation- almost makes up for the lack of pictures! Back from camping in Cornwall - have lots of empathy about wind and rain!! Still trying to catch up with the blog but glad to hear all is well and Rothes has found 'the wind beneath her wings'

Lynette
Posted on Sunday, 19 July 2009 at 22:38

Hi Richard, thanks once again for your update and all the information regarding the bringing up of ospreys etc. Look forward to perhaps bt putting their urgency shoes on and fixing the problem of the cameras. If not, we await with anticipation the next steps of Mallachie and Garten.  Good night, and thanks again to all the team.

Brenda H
Posted on Sunday, 19 July 2009 at 22:41

Debbie, thank you for your blog update and the blow by blow account of fish deliveries and intruders. Just proves how much can be  seen when at LG in person. Enjoy your couple of days off and hope the sun shines!

Richard, thank you for your update and the full and educational information, which I have printed out and put with our many bird books. Hope the decorating was completed and passed inspection to everyone's satisfaction !!!

Barbara Jean
Posted on Sunday, 19 July 2009 at 22:42

Thanks Richard for the fascinating information!! Each species  is born with  characteristics to adapt to their environment.  Humans always try to change nature to suit  our " perceived" needs.   I am looking forward to seeing how well Rothes' gauges her nest landing. I am sure each time  she  lands on the nest or  in a tree she gets better at it.  She is probably  intently observing Odin and EJ to see how they do it.  Here is  hoping the Web Cam is up tomorrow. Thanks again!!

Gary
Posted on Sunday, 19 July 2009 at 22:54

Thanks Richard for the update. Great day:)

Very interesting as well about the size difference. There was lots there I didn't know.

Good to have you back on the board Jax, hope your husband is recovering OK

Lynette
Posted on Sunday, 19 July 2009 at 22:58

Hi Annette in SoCal, just switched on your lead for the Africa cam. Am watching the waterhole., lots of lapping of water, or something drinking or moving in it but not caught a glimpse yet. I expect early morning (GMT) would be better?????  Enjoy your watching and thanks for your amusing blogs.

Valc
Posted on Sunday, 19 July 2009 at 23:20
Many thanks Richard for all that information! Great to read! Glad too that it has stopped raining and that all is well with the chicks!
Lynette
Posted on Monday, 20 July 2009 at 0:07

Annette in SoCal have been watching on and off the Africacam, lots of sounds and movements in the water but somehow the camera does not pick that up. It keeps scanning from end to end but hardly any wildlife although the sounds are there. I guess I'll just have to be patient.

FlyingC
Posted on Monday, 20 July 2009 at 0:39
Thanks, Annette in SOuthernCALifornia :) I too had lost that video link to Pete's Pond. Great update, Richard, many thanks. What a relief its stopped raining. Good luck, Mallachie and Garten, when you finally decide to fly. Be safe.
Annette in SoCal
Posted on Monday, 20 July 2009 at 0:57

Richard and Debbie: Lots and lots of info - thanks so much! - it really makes me (us) feel in touch with all the comings and goings. Fascinating about male/female sizes, but it makes perfect sense. Also was fascinated to hear Debbie's account of the intruder bearing gifts - what's that about? Assuming it was a male, I wonder if he was trying to butter up EJ for next year?

Annette in SoCal
Posted on Monday, 20 July 2009 at 4:34
4:30 a.m. UK. Just getting light at LOTL, but no ospreys in nest.
Annette in SoCal
Posted on Monday, 20 July 2009 at 5:30
5:30 a.m. in UK. Well, my computer keeps freezing. Again, I sent a previous post just noting the presence of one chick at the LOTL nest, but no idea if it arrived.... Chick still there and calling.
Annette in SoCal
Posted on Monday, 20 July 2009 at 5:47
5:35. Now two chicks at LOTL, apparently both waiting for breakfast. (Incidentally, very different noises at Pete's Pond in Botswana. We have birds by the watering hole, and last night I saw a large animal with a long tail race across the far side of the pond, then back again. Couldn't ID it though.) Meanwhile, back at LOTL, looks like sunshine - yeah!. One of the chicks has got tired of hanging about and flown off - and there goes the second one.
Annette in SoCal
Posted on Monday, 20 July 2009 at 5:53
5:50. One chick back, picking at something on the near side of the nest. Oh dear. Gone again; seems like a repeat of yesterday. Will sign off now and read all about it tomorrow. Will keep toes, fingers, and eyes crossed for LG cam tomorrow. Feeling at loose ends without our little community!
rosiemac
Posted on Monday, 20 July 2009 at 6:15

Thank you Richard and Debbie. That was very interesting to read. You are so dedicated to write blogs on your time off:)) I think that requires an XXL choccie cake when I come down next week to meet up with some other bloggers and hopefully manage to go to your talk in Boat of Garten, Richard. Really looking forward to that. Have just looked out the window and guess what - IT IS NOT RAINING!!! There is even a glimpse of sunshine :)))) See you all next week.

Suzyblu
Posted on Monday, 20 July 2009 at 7:00

Thanks for the update Richard and for the one before Debby!  Enjoy your time off you deserve it!!

The facts about the size of the Ospreys was fascinating and very logical!!

Glad to hear the rain is abating, so hopefully it will mean better conditions for fixing the Webcam link.  I hope Mallachie and Garten will hang on just a little bit longer,although I suspect that as soon as they see a clear spell in the weather they will be itching to get going. I hoe you had a nice weekend and managed to relax Richard in between keeping us informed and doing your painting. Thank you again, counting the days now, can't wait to see the Ospreys on site!!

ValG
Posted on Monday, 20 July 2009 at 8:16
Weather looks fine for fledging up there this morning. Don't know if that's good or not!!! Fingers crossed for Mallachie, but more importantly [ :-))) ], for our web cam!!!!!
Soosin
Posted on Monday, 20 July 2009 at 8:53
Wow, thanks for that Richard, brilliant. How many wpm can you type:) Love the way you write your blogs so informatively informal for us laymen. We learn all the time without feeling we're being lectured and taught. Thank you for your time. I wonder, was it a welcome break from the decorating ? I think not, just your dedication to all of us virtuals.
Karen
Posted on Monday, 20 July 2009 at 9:09
Richard - thanks for such a fascinating update - just brilliant. Also Wendymac - thanks for sharing your day with us. I'm so glad it has stopped raining. Hopefully Mallachie will go today. And lets not forget wee Garten as she must be about ready too? Fingers crossed BT quickly resolve the webcam problem.
Margaret J
Posted on Monday, 20 July 2009 at 9:12

Hi everybody. Is there room for one more new blogger? I have been watching webcam and following blogs and posts since EJ returned and feel privileged to have shared the joys and traumas of this beautiful family.  It has been a life-enhancing experience. A huge thank you to Richard and his dedicated team at LG.  You might like to take a look at a lovely video clip of 'Osprey chick meets his public' (the first in Dumfriess-shire for at least 200 years!)  It can be found at:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/8155876.stm

Maureen
Posted on Monday, 20 July 2009 at 9:14
DEBBIE and RICHARD (ladies first) thank you so much for your extremely informative reports. Richard, when behaviour, size differences etc. are explained, it all makes sense. The only thing the chicks don't or won't? learn from their parents is SHARING food!!! Understandable, I suppose......they don't know when their next fish will appear. Have a nice day!!!
Soosin
Posted on Monday, 20 July 2009 at 9:36
Just thinking, did the rain start on the 15th, St Swithins day, eek 30 days and 30 nights, mibby with climate change its reduced to 30 hours and it'll be dry now , for the foreseeable.!!!
Lynette
Posted on Monday, 20 July 2009 at 9:37
Good morning team and bloggers. Have been watching the NG Africawebcam at Pete's Pond. A variety of wildlife are at the hole at the present time, although it must be coming up to the hottest time of the day!!!!!!!!! Its a little compensation (the sounds of Africa) for not being able to watch at LG at present. We were in Soouth Africa last year and enjoyed a trip to Kruger during our stay.
Lesley Gadsden
Posted on Monday, 20 July 2009 at 9:37
Richard that was a great blog - thanks for taking the extra time to fill us with more knowledge. You did mention "one exception" of female raptors being larger than the males. I cannot think of the exception and it is annoying me so please tell us what the exception is. Thank you Richard in advance. Loved the way you said Mallachie was holding on (for dear life?) to the nesting material which is why she didn't get airbound. Bless her. Am sure she'll be up, up and away today. Fingers crossed for camera. xx
Dorothy Wilson
Posted on Monday, 20 July 2009 at 9:38
Thank you both for the very interesting recent updates. Looking forward to seeing the girls again and EJ and Odin of course. The Hobby camera is also down. What a foul weekend and a depressing outlook too. It makes you wonder sometimes how the creatures survive without a roof over their heads!
Lynette
Posted on Monday, 20 July 2009 at 9:39
Hi, returning to Bassenthwaite, it looks like mum and the two chicks are resting on the nest. By the way did one say there were only two chicks or three????????????
Soosin
Posted on Monday, 20 July 2009 at 9:42
ooo was that a flicker on the screen or just my imagination
Liz Mitchell
Posted on Monday, 20 July 2009 at 9:59
Just seen the Hobby and it seems to have trebled in size over the weekend, it also looks to be incubating the egg !! Good luck at LG today and also many thanks for the updates and info. Richard !
Cirrus
Posted on Monday, 20 July 2009 at 10:02
Such a great and wonderfully interesting blog, Richard, Thank you for taking the time to write it. Much better than a newspaper or magazine. When I’m checking the ‘domestic’ birdies out in my garden and putting out fresh water and feed I keep thinking I can hear Ospreys !! It’s all in my head of course but I really do think I can hear those Osprey calls. Then I look up at the bedroom window in which I keep my PC and tech stuff, realize the window is closed (I always used to turn up the sound and open the window when I went outside so I’d get a clue as to what was happening on the nest and could rush upstairs and break neck speed to view) and that in any case the camera is still down. What will I do when the girls and Odin migrate and Abernethy ‘hibernates’ !! But you all really do deserve a restful break. Thank you Team. Thank you Richard.
Anonymous
Posted on Monday, 20 July 2009 at 10:04
HI MARGARET J welcome -- I saw that artricle on bbc scotland = It was really good also the bit about the back bag on the chick. Brings it home I hope about the damage liotter does to out wildlife. I even heard about cows that eat the plastic bits on a 6 pack and choked them! Sunny here but windy. I'm totally having Mallachie and the family withdrawals now!!
Anonymous
Posted on Monday, 20 July 2009 at 10:06
DOROTHY WILSON Hobby cam is back and hobbit is there all on its own!!
Norma S
Posted on Monday, 20 July 2009 at 10:10
I could weep with frustration over the loss of pictures BUT the important thing is for these birds to get airborne in good time to learn the tricks of the trade before they set off for their spell down South. Let us all hope that if conditions permit, the last two nestlings leap off into the great blue yonder today. Its sunny and warm here in Wimbledon so hope it is likewise with you all in Loch Garten.
sickleclown
Posted on Monday, 20 July 2009 at 10:30
Thankyou for the brilliant updates richard,sorry to hear the weather has been so grim,like everyone else i'm desperately missing the live feed but your updates are very informative,i c'ant wait to arrive at the loch at the end of august for my weeks stay,but by then i imagine the 3 new arrivals will be heading south.that'll be a shame as i would love to see them in the flesh,keep up the good work and heres hoping the webcam is up and running soon...
BunI
Posted on Monday, 20 July 2009 at 10:52
Welcome Margaret J and thanks for the video.... Doing a bit of 'spring' cleaning while camera is down and found this wee poem I did years ago for my niece and thought I'd share it with you, I'm sure you all know a little girl who can wrap mum & dad around their little finger... Danielle has her little hen But would love another pet She thought, I'll ask my mum & dad I wonder what I'll get? Most children have a cat or dog So no, I won't have that! I want something different I know, I'll have a rat! I'll work around my mum & dad Whatever they ask, I'll do For if I'm really, really good They'll allow me to have two! My plan has worked, I have my pets They're cute with funny habits So mum & dad when they've settled in Please, can I have some RABBITS??!! Back to our osprey girls, expect to hear anytime now that Mallachie has fledged, she won't want to hold back just to please us :) Hope to see them soon whatever.......
Pia
Posted on Monday, 20 July 2009 at 11:18
Richard, THANKS!! As everyone told, very informative and interesting blog. Me - as a "non-native" English person, sometimes find it hard to understand everything, but you seems to be a good educationalist, I learnt a lot!! Loved to read your post wendymac, I've never been at LG, but through this blog it feels like I've :)) And Anette, thank you so much for that web cam. from Africa!
Margobird
Posted on Monday, 20 July 2009 at 11:33
Wonderful blog Richard and thanks to Debbie as well for keeping us so well updated about our wonderful family while we are not able to see them. Really hoping the problem can be solved and we manage to see the other 2 girls fledging. After the appalling weather you had last week I am keeping my fingers crossed that you get something better this week. Welcome MargaretJ and as you say it is a privilege to be part of this story with all its ups and one down with the fishing line incident and what a good decision it was to deliver some fish by human hand when Odin appeared to have injured himself. Thanks also for the link to the video of the baby osprey, beautiful close ups of a magnificent bird. Lets hope the computer problem can be solved soon and we can settle down to watch them all before they leave us on their migration.
Gary
Posted on Monday, 20 July 2009 at 12:05
Thanks for letting us know about your day Wendymac, sounds lovely Margaret J, there is always room for more of us, welcome:) Lovely clip of the Osprey, thank you. Hope they got him back to the nest quickly!!
Tirrick
Posted on Monday, 20 July 2009 at 12:38
Thanks Richard for the educational blog. You are an excellent teacher - so patient with us pupils. Lesley, I think Richard may have meant that vultures are the exception as mentioned later in the blog. I'm thinking of Mallachie and Garten with everything crossed for successful flights.
Anonymous
Posted on Monday, 20 July 2009 at 12:42
This is so silly. The wee hobby is trying to incubate the egg! :))) Somebody else said that.................
Anonymous
Posted on Monday, 20 July 2009 at 12:52
The Hobby egg seems to have been there for ages. Maybe it's cold!!???
ALAN PETRIE
Posted on Monday, 20 July 2009 at 12:57
12:53 and webcam still not working. Been watching Hobby and baby hobbit along with Cumbrian ospreys this morning. Apparently the 1st osprey which fledged at Dodd Wood has gone awol and not been seen for some days. I guess that 1st flight into the unknown is a dangerous time for the chicks. Hopefully 10 as it is ringed will turn up.
JulieQ
Posted on Monday, 20 July 2009 at 13:14
The still camera appears to be up and running - great to see the girls again albeit from a different camera angle - Thanks everyone:))
paula
Posted on Monday, 20 July 2009 at 13:57
Great to see the still camera up and running again and fantastic to see new views. Is that just Garten we see on the nest? Has Mallachie gone?
ValG
Posted on Monday, 20 July 2009 at 13:59
13.56 - no webcam! Boo
ValG
Posted on Monday, 20 July 2009 at 14:06

Only one bird visible on still camera. I assume Mallachie has taken off?

REPLY: Not yet, still the two of them on the nest, it has to be soon though, right...........

Anonymous
Posted on Monday, 20 July 2009 at 14:24

The still camera is just still the same picture all the time or is it me??

REPLY: The chicks do seem to be intent on having a rest today, not really moving much! David.

david anderson
Posted on Monday, 20 July 2009 at 14:26

Big thank you to Zara and Daisy for the cakes and biscuits, think the osprey team are going to be developing a weight problem!! :)

george g
Posted on Monday, 20 July 2009 at 14:28

For bloggers who are interested in birds of prey the RSPB have a booklet that tells you all about the raptors in Britain. I found this out when I signed the petion that is on the RSPB web site. I received mine this morning and because there is no web cam have now finished reading it and it makes me angry to find out just how much these wonderful birds are still being killed not only in Scotland but throughout Britain.When these people are caught the courts still don't think it is especially bad because the perpetrators seem to get away with small fines. Thanks Richard and Debbie for keeping us up to date on what is going on at the centre.

paula
Posted on Monday, 20 July 2009 at 14:30
Tish, I have to manually refresh the still camera. It doesn't update every 2 minutes for me.
Lesley Gadsden
Posted on Monday, 20 July 2009 at 14:37
Tirrick thanks for that. On a second read of Richard's blog I can now see that he included the vultures within the raptor group. Just shows what you miss the first time round.
Brenda H
Posted on Monday, 20 July 2009 at 14:39
Just to think, I used to be so happy watching the still cameras at a few sites and thought they were fantastic to view and to read reports. Now, I find it so frustrating that I can't see the live action and would feel so lost without the continuous talk on the blog and the regular expert reports from LG. Thank you to you all and don't feed the BT men ,at least untill they have fixed everything.
paula
Posted on Monday, 20 July 2009 at 14:43
We've got webcam! Woo Hoo! Thank you to ALL concerned. Give that BT man some cake!
ValG
Posted on Monday, 20 July 2009 at 14:43
Have BT turned up yet?? Do you have to wait in all day.....................:-))
ValG
Posted on Monday, 20 July 2009 at 14:46
Very strange looking pic on web cam! Tiny, can't really see much but I assume things are under way at least
Toumcaultin
Posted on Monday, 20 July 2009 at 14:48
Many thanks for all the info Richard. Very interesting info on the size difference etc. Looks like the weather has blown my fledging predictions into a soggy missssss. Have just checked my weather station and it is reading a total of 93mm of rain this month to date. That is the equivalent of the April, May and June combined totals. Mmmmmmm :-(( Keeping my fingers very tightly crossed that it will clear soon as we are due to visit in a couple of weeks time. We will sadly miss the fledging of Mallachie and Garten but hope to get some pics of them all when we visit, as visit we certainly will. Good luck with sorting out the camera. Toumcaultin by Rynuan.
Margobird
Posted on Monday, 20 July 2009 at 14:48
Am I right in thinking we have a live picture again albeit a bit blurry at present or is it just the still?
Margaret J
Posted on Monday, 20 July 2009 at 14:49
Thank you for the welcome, Tish, Bunl, Margobird and GaryS. I am not a gregarious person by nature but am very happy to be in the company of so many nice people with a shared love of wildlife in general and ospreys in particular, and such strong commitment. Tish, I too have been keeping a close watch on the Hobby egg, concentrating so hard that I once thought I saw it wobbling slightly! Maybe I was willing it to hatch,but more likely I should have gone to the famous optitcians we see on tv adverts. I loved your poem Bunl: it will never date and I know someone for whom you just might have written it :-)
Toumcaultin
Posted on Monday, 20 July 2009 at 15:01
Wey Hey Streaming Video Pics. Dare I say...................Well Done.
jeepster
Posted on Monday, 20 July 2009 at 15:12
Thank you very much to everyone involved in trying to get the webcam up and running again. Us bloggers not local to Loch Garten are very greatful. We really appreciate all the dedication and out of hours work that has been going on. Great to see them both still on the nest, obviously trying to dry out after last weekend.
Anonymous
Posted on Monday, 20 July 2009 at 15:36
This is so awful. Trying to work and coming through every so often "just in case" I got a magnifying glass out and I think I saw two little heads in the nest of the small camera...... withdrawal are def. setting in! Thank god for a buzzard meaowing overhead!!
Cirrus
Posted on Monday, 20 July 2009 at 15:37
Well, on the still camera, Mallachie is easy to spot with her broad white 'band' above her eye stripe. When I looked both popped their heads up!! Oh, it's all so so so ..... Well you all know!
Toumcaultin
Posted on Monday, 20 July 2009 at 15:43
Spoke Tooooo soon :-)
Cirrus
Posted on Monday, 20 July 2009 at 16:11
Was that Rothes in the nest at 16.10????????
paula
Posted on Monday, 20 July 2009 at 16:22

I don't know if everyone can see this album or if it's just "Facebookers" but for those that have missed any of todays "action" then I've saved some images from the stills camera feed and put them here... http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=1209&id=100000042616597&l=f300847217 Todays ones are from page 2 onwards. I hope you guys at LG don't mind. If you do please let me know and I'll take them off. Paula

ValG
Posted on Monday, 20 July 2009 at 16:22
Still no webcam!!!!!!!!!!?????????
Annette in SoCal
Posted on Monday, 20 July 2009 at 16:24
Morning all! MARGARET J, welcome! Saw the BBC clip just the other day when I was Desperately Seeking Ospreys - somewhere, anywhere. :-) WENDYMAC: Great report from the trenches, so to speak, and very much appreciated. Looks like another blustery day at Mrs. Hobby's house. Was watching the Botswana cam around 6 a.m. your time when a bunch of bossy, busy birds flocked to the waterhole, apparently to catch up on the morning gossip; also saw an ostrich poking about in the bushes and what looked like either a wild hog or a baby rhino (very unsure about the latter) taking a morning sip before trotting off. Re the LG cam, maybe we should start offering sacrifices to the technology gods (laptops, I-phones, who knows!)
Anonymous
Posted on Monday, 20 July 2009 at 16:44
has one of the baes taken off It's so hard to see properly!
Anonymous
Posted on Monday, 20 July 2009 at 16:44
baes read babes
Anonymous
Posted on Monday, 20 July 2009 at 16:55
Paula Paula Paula Thank you Thank you Thank you. I need to see our family so badly XXXXXXX
Barbara Jean
Posted on Monday, 20 July 2009 at 16:56

With the still camera working  I can see all the  large trees  near the nest. It must be a challenge for Odin and EJ to  fly "between" the  trees to bring the fish to the nest.

Anonymous
Posted on Monday, 20 July 2009 at 17:01

i can only see one on the nest edge.......................

REPLY - Mallachie and Garten are still both on the nest, but there has been alot of flapping and hovering this afternoon.  Claire.

Anonymous
Posted on Monday, 20 July 2009 at 17:08

Mallachie is still on the nest 'cos I saw her tracker on her back.  I turned the magnifier thing up to 400%  but no Garten????

REPLY - Garten is currently lying down in the middle of the nest, and Mallachie is sitting at the side.  Claire.

Anonymous
Posted on Monday, 20 July 2009 at 17:11
SORRY TO BE A PEST CLAIRE AND tHANK YOU FOR THE INFO xx
Maureen
Posted on Monday, 20 July 2009 at 17:25

PAULA.....Like TISH, THANK YOU THANK YOU:o)) BUT has one of our 'babies' gone??

rhona1947
Posted on Monday, 20 July 2009 at 17:59
Thank you pmc for still photos, if you click them fast enoough we have movies lol.
Lynette
Posted on Monday, 20 July 2009 at 18:16
Is the live webcam down again, I can't seem to get it up. Will look at the still in a moment.
PaulaP
Posted on Monday, 20 July 2009 at 18:17

Why does the still camera always stop refreshing at 6pm? I noticed it did this last time we were without the webcam. I was so hoping it would be fixed today, especially as I had to go out! I know it is only 5 days without it, but it feels more like 5 weeks.

Well, the still camera is better than nothing, even if the nest does look empty right now. Thank you LG. Pity BT couldn't think along the lines that there are a large number of potential customers waiting for them to solve this problem, a fast solution would impress us all!

Maureen
Posted on Monday, 20 July 2009 at 18:21

I honestly don't know what is going on in Mrs Hobby's house!!!

I apologise to everyone......the SECOND EGG HAS MYSTERIOUSLY REAPPEARED...it can be confirmed by one of the fellow bloggers at NFG that it was not there all afternoon. I have made enquiries and as soon as I get an answer I will let you know.

I have now joined TISH on the Yellow Brick Road:o)))

dutchfan
Posted on Monday, 20 July 2009 at 18:22

Hallo you there at Loch Garten, and specially hallo to Claire and Malcom who I met when I was visiting Loch Garten on the 12th of july. It is nice to see your faces behind the names too!! And it turnes out I knew Claire from the reindercentre  where we met  a few years ago. It's a small world!!!

It was very nice to be there again.  Loved to see EJ and Odin, who spent a lot of time in the camera tree, because of the bad weather. I could see one of the ypung ladies on the nest, and teh other two on the viseo camera. I hope the camera will work soon so we can see the flights of the young ones.  ist be frustrating for you there too not to be able to share this with all the fans.

Next time when we are in Scotland we will come again, promised!!!!!!!

Lynette
Posted on Monday, 20 July 2009 at 18:22

Looking at the still, it looks as though there are no babes on nest. Is that so??? Have Mallachie and Garten fledged???

Jillian
Posted on Monday, 20 July 2009 at 18:24

Annette-thank you for explaining what solcal means, are you an american/english or and american who is enjoying the scottish webcam here?

Are any of the american ospreys on a webcam for you to watch?

Great to see a still camera at least, hoping other is up in the next few hours. JILLIAN

ChloeB
Posted on Monday, 20 July 2009 at 19:38
Glad you're enjoying the biscuits my good friend Zara brought you all David :) Was rather hoping to get up there myself but so far it hasn't quite worked out. Chloe aka Daisy :)
prawnslippers
Posted on Monday, 20 July 2009 at 19:39

for those interested, there's a nice little article on the history of Loch Garten in the ltest (aug-oct 2009) edition of Birds. (click on thumbnail for larger)

<a target='_blank' href='http://img204.imageshack.us/i/lg1.jpg/'><img src='http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/1470/lg1.th.jpg' border='0'/></a><a target='_blank' href='http://img176.imageshack.us/i/lg2.jpg/'><img src='http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/161/lg2.th.jpg' border='0'/></a>

- is that Richard Thaxton in the photo at the bottom of page 44 - in the centre with the woolly hat and beard?

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