Loch Garten osprey diary

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You need to begin to prepare yourselves for them going.....

Blogger George asked a question about when the ospreys are likely to begin their migration?  So I thought I'd answer his question with a wee blog and in so doing take this opportunity to begin to prepare you for their inevitable departure, as day by day we move inexorably towards that next stage in the lives of our birds.

The usual pattern, over all the years here at Loch Garten, is that female ospreys leave first.  EJ could be gone by perhaps as early as c.8-10 August.  Rothes, Mallachie and Garten are likely to be with us until c.20-24 August.  Male ospreys are last to go, so Odin could be with us until he is confident that the youngsters have indeed gone, hanging on just that little bit longer for several days to check, then off he goes too at the end of August or early September.  They do not go together as a family, though it is possible that they may encounter one another en route.  Last year, Deshar and Nethy both spent a month or more in southern England, but not actually anywhere near each other.

One explanation why female ospreys go early, is that their job is done, the young ospreys are at least semi, if not totally independent by then, and the male is of course still around to provide back-up supplies of fish if the young still have not fully mastered fishing for themselves successfully.  Also, because the female has; a) put a lot of her bodily resources into the production of eggs, b) been relatively inactive during the 36-42 days of incubation, and c) spent another two months hanging around the nest, guarding & tending the young - she is therefore relatively out of condition and potentially quite unfit compared to Odin.  So she leaves early to give herself a longer time to make that migration flight, perhaps at a more leisurely pace, recovering her fitness along the way.

Odin, who as chief provider of fish, has spent months & months flying back and forth on fishing trips, anything up to 9 times a day, therefore he in contrast is as fit as a butcher's dog, as they say, is in tip-top condition and therefore can afford to delay his departure for the sake of the family, before he then heads off, when his fitness probably enables him to make good progress, and fast.

Interestingly, given EJ's resumption of fishing duites far earlier than we have seen from most female ospreys here at Loch Garten over the years  -  no doubt a result of learned behaviour, of not to trust males to provide enough fish, after her experiences with VS  -  it will mean that she will have regained some of her fitness, maybe returned to full fitness, and so be in a better condition to start her migration.  Will that mean she stays longer?  Or maybe she will just go early as usual, but be all the better to cope with the rigours of migration, arrive in West Africa in good shape,  survive the winter more easily and return again to breed in 2010?  Could our EJ have hit upon a strategy that will serve her well in future -  start fishing early and get back in shape?

Posted by richard thaxton at 20:18 on 26 July 2009.  107 comments

Comments

Ellieloo
Posted on Sunday, 26 July 2009 at 21:34

Thankyou for all this information, but I have to admit to feeling very sad and perhaps a bit teary reading it, even though we all know this is how it works and always will.

I have to marvel at nature as to what drives them on and to just know its time to go, and how the little ones know by instinct the way to Africa, when you say they dont go as a family, now wouldn't that be what we want as humans, EJ and Odin leading the lttle family to Africa,

Nature is far cleverer than us mere humans, and these birds know far more than we will ever realise I'm sure, Just hope they all arrive safely, and maybe come back and see us all one day.

Especially EJ, lets hope she finds Odin again next year, what a star he has been, I'm sure all the ladies will be after him next year.

They say animals leave paw prints on your heart well this little family have certainly left their prints on mine.

Karen
Posted on Sunday, 26 July 2009 at 21:47

Richard, thanks for the update but it is not really something I want to read or think about yet!!

I just feel so sad thinking of them leaving.  Here at LG, they have been so well looked after by EJ and Odin and soon they will be on their own and have to fend for themselves.  Exciting but also sad.  

You mentioned you saw on the tracking that Rothes is venturing a bit further now.  When is the Google Earth tracking going to be turned on so we can see too?  

 

REPLY: Karen, I know, I know, it will be sad when they go, I'm just trying to let you down gently and prepare you.  The web-team will now be working on the tracking pages etc, since completing the new blog lay-out work.  -  Richard

wendymac
Posted on Sunday, 26 July 2009 at 21:48

Richard, i must admit that when i read the title of this blog it actually brought a lump to my throat! I thought i was prepared but obviously not. lets hope that ej's tactics of resuming fishing activities does mean she stays that bit longer - after all, i really think she is the true heroine of this family. thats not to take anything away from Odin, who has done a magnificent job of providing for all of them, but i just think ej is so special. if she chooses to go early as is usual, then so be it, and i, along with thousands of others, will wish her godspeed and safe journey.

tish
Posted on Sunday, 26 July 2009 at 21:49

RICHARD  Thank you so much I was in the act of asking that question and then you answer it.  Very interesting, sad and quite frightening for the girls though!!!  

Thanks again  xx You are all brilliant but you all know that @cos we keep telling you!  ::))

tish
Posted on Sunday, 26 July 2009 at 21:50

I wish I had words to say what you said Ellieloo.  Not that clever ::)) Boo Hoo!!  

tish
Posted on Sunday, 26 July 2009 at 22:00

21.58 I think Garten has left that fish on the nest by the look of it!!

A bit tearful after reading the blog though.  This will be my first migration.  Even at my age I still have firsts.  Wonderful  ::))

Sheila
Posted on Sunday, 26 July 2009 at 22:06

2205.  I know I know, it must happen - thank you Richard.  But what excitement is in store for us now!  We'll be tracking them down through the UK, perhaps even with some sitings as happened last year in the south of England, then logging on to Google Earth eagerly each day to see how much progress the Girls have made.  And then the satisfaction of knowing they're in Africa with plentiful fish.  We hope!  (No more Deshars this year, please.)  And of course we'll all be blogging away as usual sharing our joy and our worries.  Marvellous!

DjoanS
Posted on Sunday, 26 July 2009 at 22:14

Thanks, Richard for the update. You are preparing us well for the departure of our lovely osprey family. Here's hoping for a safe passage for each of them on migration in their separate ways. This is the first time I have watched from the beginning of the season - I only found the site last year about migration time - and I am well and truly hooked! It has been made so enjoyable - and educational - by the blogs and interesting comments from you and all the other LG staff. Just wish I lived a bit nearer and was able to visit in person.

Sue Stephen
Posted on Sunday, 26 July 2009 at 22:14

Wow, hasnt the migration come round very quickly. I agree with all thats been written and of course it is sad that the family are to be going their separate ways BUT on the other hand its the start of another chapter in this intriguing adventure. I so thoroughly enjoyed following the journeys of Nethy and Deshar last year even although the end result what not what we would all have wanted. This time it will hopefully have a happier ending AND of course I am still hopeful that the tracking device fell off Nethy and that perhaps one day she will return to LG.

I feel mega privileged to have been able to share in this wonderful event and am truly delighted to have learnt so much not only from the staff at LG but also the info from all the bloggers and of course the birds themselves, the stars of the whole show! Thanks everyone.

paula
Posted on Sunday, 26 July 2009 at 22:18

I don't want to think about the upcoming departures either. It's my birthday at the end of August and whilst it's something to look forward to it also means the realisation that our wee family probably won't be around by then.

The departure of Odin, EJ and the girls is going to hit me very hard. This is our first year of Osprey Watching and we have been completely and utterly drawn in and, in my case, it's become quite an addiction. It's all down to you Guys, especially Richard, at Loch Garten and everyone on the Blog and Facebook Pages. It's ALL your fault!!! But I wouldn't have missed it for the world...so THANK YOU xx

abunni
Posted on Sunday, 26 July 2009 at 22:24

Sad but inevitable to know that the departure date is nigh, thank you for the information Richard.....it makes you wonder even more about nature and she  prepares the birds for their future. But on the bright side,  just think, we will be able to follow the flights of the Rothes and Mallachie (all being well) find which paths they choose to their ultimate destination....... and be very grateful that we were all part of a team of like minded folk, from all over the globe, who have watched them grow, thrive, the parents survival through all their tribultions and even helped along by Tesco's fish!  With Richard at the helm, and the volunteers at the centre we are all part of a unique experience that some folks never have, or know about even....... I feel very privileged to be a small part of this community..... and will wish the Osprey family well and safe and happy landings....... now I can go away and find my hankie!!!! sniff, sniff not that I get emotional mind!

My time 14.23 Sunday afternoon. 26th July 2009

george g
Posted on Sunday, 26 July 2009 at 22:32

10:25 pm Richard thank you for the informatiom about the migration. I now can plan my last trip of the season to see the family that has kept us all intrigued with for the last five months. From what I have been reading google earth is going to be kept busy during the winter months.

M M G.
Posted on Sunday, 26 July 2009 at 22:35

I know we all feel the same about them going to Africa but that is just what nature is all about we hope they will return again next year E J and Odin what a pair they are just wonderful never faltering in the care of their wee family apart from the incident of the fishing line with poor Odin but he quickly got back into feeding the wee ones  as did Richard and the L G team  hope and pray the five of them have a safe journey to Africa and fingers will be crossed till next March for E J and Odin to return to L G he is a great provider for his girls and E J  is a mum in a million.

ValG
Posted on Sunday, 26 July 2009 at 22:37

Fantastic that there will be three healthy young ones setting out shortly, just marvellous. It could all have been very different, given Odin's earlier difficulties. What a pleasure it has been to watch them grow, squabble and learn. Looking forward to seeing where Rothes and Mallachie get to, and hopefully we will see EJ and Odin do it all over again next time!

Wattle15
Posted on Sunday, 26 July 2009 at 22:37

Thanks so much, Richard, for that very timely and informative blog.  Time certainly does march on!  One thing is for certain; these chicks come from the very best stock, and have been well-fed at all stages of their development.  That means that they have the very best chance possible of migrating safely and successfully to Africa, and of returning at the appointed time to breed themselves.  With learned behaviour of females contributing to the food supply for chicks, the future also looks very promising for their progeny.  Now, lets just settle back and enjoy watching these magnificent creatures while we can.

Some time ago I likened all of us to hungry, demanding chicks, and the LG team as patient and indulgent parents feeding us well with knowledge.  As chance would have it, have you noticed that, as our young birds have left the confines of the nest, we too have left the confines of this blog and are now exploring our new environment.  We are learning to be more self-sufficient here, and to help each other, which will stand us in good stead for when LG closes at the end of the season.  That day, too, is fast approaching.

Brenda H
Posted on Sunday, 26 July 2009 at 22:43

Once again Richard, thank you so much for your interesting and informative blog. I am not going to get emoional as they haven't gone yet!! I am so thrilled that to date, this year has been so successful for you and your hard working colleagues. Hope to see all the family this week before they all progressively leave.

PaulaP
Posted on Sunday, 26 July 2009 at 22:44

I have had a wonderful time watching this little family. I know they have to go, just because we have learnt to love them, doesn't mean we can change their lives to suit ourselves, even if we could! But we are lucky enough to be able to follow two of 'our' girls because they are tagged, poor Garten, we just have to wait and hope one day she will return and someone will spot her leg ring. I think we have all learnt so much about ospreys, I know I have. They say you are never too old to learn, and this was my topic for this year! I will miss them when they go, but will also be filled with happiness to know I have witnessed the best possible start for the girls, which will stand them in good stead for the future.

So to all at LG, many, many thanks for making all this possible, oh, and Tesco of course!! And thank you too, for making it possible for us all to share in their lives for this magical time.

patriciat
Posted on Sunday, 26 July 2009 at 22:50

At last - I've got into the blog again.  Feel like everyone else about the upcoming migration but just hope the chicks' good start in life will stand them in good stead.  Thank you Richard for another great update.

anny
Posted on Sunday, 26 July 2009 at 22:55

Thanks for that reminder Richard - I must check on my stock of Kleenex. Look forward to tracking them to Africa (I think)!

Valc
Posted on Sunday, 26 July 2009 at 23:23

This summer is flying by!  I will be sorry that this osprey season is so very nearly at an end.  It seems no time since EJ and Odin arrived!!!!!  I just hope they all arrive safely in Africa!!!!  

Gary
Posted on Monday, 27 July 2009 at 1:43

Thanks Richard and it is a wise move to try and get us to come round slowly to the fact the family will be leaving us soon. (Although they don't see it that way at all I'm sure! ) I am feeling very sad already!!!

I won't repeat what others have said much better than I could but this year has been incredible and let's hope we have a few more weeks of excellent viewing.

I know the migration is such a dangerous time for the birds but I take great heart that Odin and EJ couldn't have done more for "the sisters" and if there is a better fed brood of 3 osprey chicks around I would like to see them.

Again, I can't praise you and your team enough for deciding to step in with a helping hand when it was absolutely essential.

So, thanks again and catch up tomorrow:)

Annette in SoCal
Posted on Monday, 27 July 2009 at 5:27

5 a.m. UK time. Oh dear - the real empty nest syndrome! But being able to track them is simply wonderful, and before we know it, we'll all be anticipating EJ's return. And having this blog is wonderful, so we can all keep in touch!  In the meantime, we currently have an empty nest. Thanks Richard and all the good folks at LG! And I hope this isn't a stupid question, but what happens to the nest once they've gone?

 

 

REPLY:  No much really.  Once they have gone, we go up to the nest to remove the microphone, check for & remove any fishing line, and sometimes we do remove some of the nest material as the nest is getting very large, wide, deep and a bit lop-sided, and so potentially unstable.  We either remove some in September or in March before their return.  The winter gales often do this for us.  -  Richard

Annette in SoCal
Posted on Monday, 27 July 2009 at 6:15

6:13 a.m. Well, turned my back and now four birds - oops - now three birds on nest. Was that Odin who just flew off after delivering a fresh fish? (The whale from yesterday was still in the nest earlier.) Looks like EJ in the middle with Garten on her left and Mallachie (I think) at her right. Now a third bird (Rothes?) on the pole. Whoever it is, she's not interested in the food. Now Garten has flown off.  Oooh. We've zoomed in - who's working the camera this early? Thank you!. This is the first time I've seen the zoom in action. Brilliant!! Now looks like Garten is back for seconds....

Annette in SoCal
Posted on Monday, 27 July 2009 at 6:15

...and whoever was on the pole has flown off.

Annette in SoCal
Posted on Monday, 27 July 2009 at 6:29

6:30 a.m. in UK. 10:30 in SoCal. Lots of action at nest in the last 30 or so minutes. Four birds there now. Gosh, was it just a few weeks ago that they were tiny chicks and we were all fretting about the fighting over food....  There goes Mallachie? while a second bird has just arrived at LOTL. Anyway, time for me call it day here. Night-night folks!

Maureen
Posted on Monday, 27 July 2009 at 6:49

6.40am.....EJ feeding two of her girls, probably Mallachie and wee Garten.

Thank you so much for your report RICHARD and your kind preparation of us, to get ready for the sad day, which we have known was inevitable. At least we will be able to track the movements of Rothes and Mallachie BUT I am sure we will all wonder about Garten.

Oh! at times like this, I wish that the animal kingdom was like Walt Diney films.  :o(((

audrey
Posted on Monday, 27 July 2009 at 7:19

07.16a.m. So good to see 'someone' on the nest, a very precious moment!!  Hope to see quite a few more before the inevitable happens.  On a more positive note....there is always next March to look forward to.

 

REPLY: Indeed Audrey, with all that new intrigue of, will it be EJ?, will it be Odin?  Whilst this season is rapidly moving on to the point of their departure, March will be with us again before we know it.  -  Richard 

Jeanette
Posted on Monday, 27 July 2009 at 7:39

Madhainn Bhar (good morning in Gaelic, pronounced "matan var" but pardon the spelling lol) everyone at 07.33 and an empty nest - a taste of things to come. Thanks Richard for the update. I am sure EJ will be fit for her journey this year, she too has been well looked after by Odin and seeing her catch such huge fish shows she has a keen eye. I got my first 'friend' on the site lol. Isn't it a wonderful community?! Off to work where sadly my computer is barred from the nest (no streaming media) so I will have to rely on everybody else's eyes and comments.

rosiemac
Posted on Monday, 27 July 2009 at 7:56

Thank you, Richard for trying to prepare us for the migration and also thank you to all Team LG for all the blogs, info etc. You are all stars. Just getting ready for a final visit to LG today to see Odin and the girls and all of you of course and meet up hopefully with some other bloggers. Looking forward to your talk tonight at the Boat, Richard!! :))))

 

REPLY:  Many thanks rosiemac for joining RSPB today at Loch Garten.  Much appreciated.  -  Richard

REPLY:  Almost forgot, sorry, our thanks too, to gillian and stephen, also bloggers who visited us today and joined RSPB here on site.  Wonderful, thanks.  -  Richard

BigRab74
Posted on Monday, 27 July 2009 at 8:01

Morning all - been a while posting on here - trying to keep two young children amused during the school holidays restricts my time, though they do have a growing interest in wildlife - well, they're only 3 and 4 years old!  THANK YOU to everyone involved in this online community - it's great to be able to catch up with what is going on at Loch Garten - it almost feels like we're there in person reading the comments!  A tinge of sadness when the chicks leave yes - but, inevitable - the start of life's big adventure!  I sincerely hope that this year we will have better results from the tagging and with the fantastic start all three juveniles have had from Odin and EJ that in 2010 we will be sitting in March/April time going 'WOW!!!!'

Elizabeth
Posted on Monday, 27 July 2009 at 8:36

I have visited the centre regularly each year for the past few years but this has been my first year of continously watching the ospreys and I might add a fascinating one.

I am now looking forward to following the tagged birds and hope and pray for a safe arrival for all three in Africa.  The one thing I am sure of, is that these three chicks have had the very best start in life with two extremely capable parents.  The learned behaviour from EJ and Odin should stand them in very good stead for parenting in the future and ultimate survival of these amazing birds.

The work of LG and RSPB generally is invaluable to their protection and I along with many other Bloggers are extremely grateful for their efforts.

Elizabeth
Posted on Monday, 27 July 2009 at 8:37

I too am looking forward to the talk by yourself Richard, at Boat of Garten tonight. :)

Pia
Posted on Monday, 27 July 2009 at 8:45

THANK YOU so much Richard!

Everything is said... this Osprey family has been a big part of my summer, and I wish them the best of luck in life and a safe emigration!

Taff
Posted on Monday, 27 July 2009 at 8:46

Oh Dear it's that time again or soon will be when we are saddened by their leaving but jubilant in knowing that EJ and Odin have Met, Mated and Reared three fabulous, incredible creatures Rothes, Mallachie and Garten and to have carried on the Loch Garten Ospreys history.

Whenever that day comes to each we all wish of them a safe journey to wherever they wish to spend their time away from us and then a speedy safe return to "Do It All Again" and have us sitting in front of our PCs, Laptops enjoying every hour we can.

Finally a very big THANK YOU to you Richard and your incredible staff for making it possible for ever so many people to benefit from yours and others Blogs, Expirence etc.

Taff

JILLHAMPS
Posted on Monday, 27 July 2009 at 8:50

Thank you for all your hard work Richard and crew.  I know that the Centre will close at the end of the season but will this new site continue?  Debbie Thorne set up the FB Loch Garten Bloggers site last year, so that we could all keep in touch during the winter months.  It became addictive and it seemed no time before the saga began again.

Mike
Posted on Monday, 27 July 2009 at 8:56

Richard, I think you are quite right to prepare everyone for the migration as only yesterday there was a report on the Sussex Ornithological Site of an Osprey on the South Coast. I guess it was a non breeder but nevertheless it indicates that they are getting ready to move.

patriciat
Posted on Monday, 27 July 2009 at 8:56

8.50am. Just one bird on the nest - and I have no idea which!  I suppose if one doesn't have time to monitor the video for prolonged periods it will become rarer and rarer to see them as the young ones take more responsibility for fishing and feeding themselves.  The better they can get at it, the better their chances of successful migration and eventual return so, can't be selfish, must let them keep up the good work.  I'm sure, Richard, that you and the team will keep us all up to date on activities.

Lynette
Posted on Monday, 27 July 2009 at 9:17

Good morning everybody.  Thanks Richard for the info and for preparing us for the inevitable. Nest looks empty so perhaps they are fishing!!!!!!!!! or it could be they are in the nest but will hidden.  Will miss the blogs after August but hey! there is still March - not too far away. By the way, there is still Mrs. Hobby to watch and if anyone likes the African sound there is Pete's pond to keep us going.  Well done team. Nest still looks empty.

Wendyb
Posted on Monday, 27 July 2009 at 9:20

09.19 Not looking forward to the tracking.I did't follow it but Nomis did so it was up to him to break any news to me ..... so I pray he and the girls have an easier time of it this year.

Unpredicted sunny start to day up here on Speyside how lucky are we just spoken to yougest in Dorset and they have got our bad weather down there.

Lesley Gadsden
Posted on Monday, 27 July 2009 at 9:50

Morning everyone.  Yes I can feel that tinge of sadness starting to creep up on me somewhere down deep.  Was alright until I read Richard's blog last night! - we all know the days are coming when they go one by one but it was seeing it in black and white that brought it home a bit quicker.  I cannot believe how quickly time has flown since EJ returned (remember writing it on my wall calendar!) - it's seems to have been the quickest breeding season ever - with three beautiful girls and two wonderful parents at the end.  I would hate to think that we might not see Odin again - it's always a bit of a gamble as to who EJ takes up with and the fact he's not ringed seems to make it a bit "iffy" (for want of a better word!).  I really hope they get together quickly next Spring and assert their dominance on their nest.  Richard, when you tidy the nest you must have thoughts in your head about all the hundreds of little and big activities that took place in it during the season? I have to say I will be worrying about little Garten as we will have no way of knowing where she is at any given time or whether she makes it to Africa (other than God forbid someone finding a leg ring - can't bear that thought so I must stop being pessimistic) - glass half full and all that!!! :o)  Well best get on with some work I suppose! xx

Cirrus
Posted on Monday, 27 July 2009 at 9:53

Yes, thank you again Richard. I hope ALL the team read my thanks to them published under the previous blog on Saturday 25. I so appreciate all your hard work Team. Like everyone else I am really going to miss this family but rejoice in three more Ospreys to grace the world and expecting the best for all three. Hopefully, the more experienced EJ and Odin will find migration a breeze and because they have been so successful together this year will be together next year.

Maureen
Posted on Monday, 27 July 2009 at 10:06

9.56am....BigRab74.......I have been awaiting your next 'Blockbuster', but  now I understand with two wee chicks of your own to keep amused your time is restricted. Enjoy every minute with them because like the 'three sisters' the time will come TOO QUICKLY when they 'fly the nest'. Your encouragement of their interest in Wildlife is the best thing you could do.  

Lindybird
Posted on Monday, 27 July 2009 at 10:25

10.25am  Thanks for the great update Richard: I'm learning something all the time.  Agree with all the above comments- we'll be sad but all winter will have next spring to look forward to, when our birds, we hope, return again and give us some more heart stopping moments.

Maureen
Posted on Monday, 27 July 2009 at 10:25

RICHARD.....there was a great team of cleaners in the neat yesterday, perhaps you could call them out again!!! :o)

REPLY - I know we all really enjoyed watching the juvenile Redstarts on the nest yesterday too, they made a speedy exit when Odin brought the fish in though!  Claire

redkite2009
Posted on Monday, 27 July 2009 at 10:40

Thank you Richard, yet another beautifully written report.

I hope EJ and Odin return next year and the girlies survive; perhaps one day they too will return to their birthplace and carry on the wonderful skills learnt from their parents.

This year was the first time I had followed the ospey saga and it has been a wonderful experience.

Loch Garten will be on our holiday visit list for next year.. My sister, who lives in Aberdeenshire ,has been lucky enough to meet Richard so I hope I'm lucky too.

And a big thanks to BigRab74, I shall keep returning to view your outstanding clips on the web, they were inspirational

Good luck Osprey family, stay safe on your travels

ALAN PETRIE
Posted on Monday, 27 July 2009 at 10:55

10:49 and I echo the sentiments of everyone on this blog today. Having followed last years trials and tribulations with Deshar and then Nethy we can be sure their may be difficult times ahead but this season with EJ and Odin the 3 young ospreys have been given the best possible start. Looking round at other sites how many have 3 fledged and healthy chicks? This is testament to the parent birds and the unending care and attention that the LG team have put into this years project. Everyone there should be proud of what has been achieved this season and lets look forward to EJ and Odin returning for many years to come.  

Tiger
Posted on Monday, 27 July 2009 at 10:59

The one thing we know for certain is that nothing is ever predictable with these ospreys.

Roy Dennis has recently announced that he has captured Red 8T and is going to track him on his migration to Africa. Now Red 8T has featured at Loch Garten on at least two occasion. He was EJ's mate for a short time in 2005 during a particularly chaotic time when OVS had abandoned her at the first sign of trouble and left her with a number of eggs.

Then of course a rather bedraggled Henry turned up and drove Red 8T away and got rid of the eggs proper.

So a very exciting and unexpected addendum to this season.

Lesley Gadsden
Posted on Monday, 27 July 2009 at 11:36

11.31  Tish have just checked my emails and notification of your blog sent to my profile was there.  How is that done anyone?  Can you respond direct from 'my profile' page cos I can't see anyway and Tish I can't find your previous blog anywhere!!!!!!..........  My dog Ember is a Red Merle border collie and she has just turned 6. She was a rescue dog (unbelievably!) and we've had her since she was 20 mths.  She is a wonderful dog and people always stop to admire her wherever we go.   Anyway back to the nest - all empty at the moment.  Are any of the family in the surrounding branches? x

Margo
Posted on Monday, 27 July 2009 at 11:38

I will be truly "grumpy" when the birds have flown south, but also excited as it will be interesting to track them on google earth.  I think this year's brood stand a much better chance as they have been so well reared by EJ and Odin.  No one on the nest right now (11.35)so I hope the chicks are getting in plenty of practice, and soon will even be trying a bit of fishing.   But I often wonder how they learn.  Ia it instinctive, or will they watch other ospreys first?  Does anyone know?

Possum
Posted on Monday, 27 July 2009 at 11:52

Wow where has the time gone.....seems like only a moment ago the girls were chicks and here they are ready to start out on their own and as you say Richard time to start preparing ourselves for their departure, I still can't believe it has come around so quick.......had a great time watching them grow up, chatting on all the blogs, learning about Ospreys and lots of other birds in the mix as well so thanks again Richard to you and your team at LG for all your hardwork and lets hope your reward is five Osprey happily fishing in Africa :)

Lorraine
Posted on Monday, 27 July 2009 at 12:46

Oh dear, Richard, I didn't really want to think about them going just yet, but you are right, we must start to prepare ourseves, for the inevitable departure of each of our precious birds :(

I haven't been able to watch very much lately and was getting withdrawal symptons just from that, so what I will be like when they are not there any more, goodness only knows!!

Still....... we do have the tracking of Rothes and Mallachie to look forward to and like last year, I will follow them with the same fascination, that I followed Nethy and Deshar's journey........hoping for a much better outcome :)

SueD
Posted on Monday, 27 July 2009 at 12:55

Thanks Richard for your explanation, it has brought a lump to my throat and tears to my eyes but I know they have to go and it will be fantastic to track Rothes and Mallachie on their travels and hopefully see Garten back in a couple of years.  This will be my first migration as I came across the website just after Nethy and Deshar left Scotland last year.  The positive thing about the girls leaving is that Odin and Ej have given them the best start in life by bringing loads of fish for them to eat (not forgetting Tesco and yourself!).  Thank you again!

Cirrus
Posted on Monday, 27 July 2009 at 12:56

I can't bear the nest being empty every time I've looked in today. (A lot -  but I know how easy it is to miss any action). So, has anybody seen any of the Ospreys?

OK, OK, yes, it's a proper preparation time for me but it's still hard.

REPLY - There has been a chick way behind the nest for most of the day, unfortunately not visible on the camera, it doesn't look to have a satellite tracker, so looks like it is Garten.  Claire.

Foxtail
Posted on Monday, 27 July 2009 at 13:10

Yes indeed the next fretful phase is shortly to begin for us all with the impending migration. I still get emotional now if I think too much of poor Deshar so I am bracing myself for more distress this time around while at the same time praying this year's girls have a better fate. It won't put me off following the migrations, it's all too fascinating and addictive and it so enriches my life. Will just have to make sure to have plenty of tissues handy to wave farewell with and dab at eyes with at the same time :0)

I would like to echo BigRab74's sentiments about the wonderful online community we have here. Thank you everyone for sharing information and just being a part of this very special experience.

Simon
Posted on Monday, 27 July 2009 at 13:13

For those out there with a twinge of sadness......................

About 55 days ago we were all flat on the floor when the news came that we may have lost Odin, very shortly afterwards someone appeared on camera with a Tesco’s carrier bag placing fish on the nest. At this stage most of us thought it may well be all over!

Oddly, from what I could see from this end was EJ appearing a little perplexed but strangely serene almost as if she knew that there was a problem but somehow knowing that the man would return. Let’s face it, with eyesight with magnification 2.5 times that of ours along with 8 times the detail, she could quite possibly have been watching him where even with the best of equipment, we humans probably couldn’t find him.

What we now have is 3 fabulous girls each the size of a B52 Bomber (sorry ladies, perhaps I could have phrased that a bit better?) who couldn’t have had a better start (albeit a bit wobbly for a short while) courtesy of scenes reminiscent of the Battle of Britain with intruders appearing left, right & centre with our magnificent pair seeing off all and sundry and Odin the great provider doing his utmost to keep everyone stuffed to the limit :-)

So, whilst we all may miss watching the fabulous 5 doing their thing, I think it should be more a case of REJOICE, REJOICE, REJOICE!

Ellieloo
Posted on Monday, 27 July 2009 at 13:21

Dont mean to sound dumb,

but how will the google earth work with our little family and how do I get it Please.

Would love to be able to track them,

jswscot
Posted on Monday, 27 July 2009 at 13:33

Better still "Taff" (Clive) why not visit in person next season.  I know you will not be disappointed.  Pru

krisztinabelle
Posted on Monday, 27 July 2009 at 13:34

13.31 Hi there just leaving for Boat of Garten, hoping to see the girls (and the boy) before they leave for a warmer place. Isn't it great from Odin to hang around to make sure all the children are ok? What a great dad, wish mine had been the same!!!! :-))

mozziecat
Posted on Monday, 27 July 2009 at 13:40

13.33  Well here I am at last.  Fantastic new blog software.  Had a few tricky moments getting signed in and then got lost a couple of times exploring.  Lots more to find out.  Have seen all the girls a few times, perching and eating. Saw Odin delivering a fish once. Lack of cam/blog together with window in local weather allowed me to get some gardening done.  Also found out about crane project (local to me) so will be taking an interest in that.  We've already added the crane school at Slimbridge to our holiday itinerary. next week Scotland, ospreys and eagles, can't wait.  Lovely to see all the names from the old blog signing up and Thanks for the info from the team.

Cirrus
Posted on Monday, 27 July 2009 at 13:53

Is there the remotest chance that all three girls are learning to fish in the Spey today ? Those of you more knowledgeable than I, I'd be grateful for any 'speculations' . Thanks.

Margobird
Posted on Monday, 27 July 2009 at 14:28

Richard thanks again for the  blog.  I know you are trying to let us all down gently but as I read through tears started at the thought of losing this wonderful family.  EJ and Odin have been the best parents to Garten, Mallachie and Rothes and have provided us with some wonderful sights and a story to behold.  All ospreys are special but this family really have got into my heart and I will be so sorry when they leave on what we know is a hazardous journey for them.  Good job we have BogRab4 videos to watch during the winter months until March comes round and the whole story starts again.  You really are fabulous people at LG.  You have kept us up to date with everything, answered countless questions and of course looked after our family.  Haven't seen them at all today but we have to get used to his as they will be spending more and more time away from the nest perfecting their flying skills and of course getting the hang of fishing.  Mustn't be too sad though because all 3 girls have had the best start in life and now EJ can look after herself and come back in fine form next year together with Odin who has been magnificent.  What a wise choice she made.  Will look forward to the tracking and I really hope things will turn out OK this time for all the girls.  Once again thank you, thank you for all the joy this marvellous site has brought to me.

MAUREEN AND KATE had a message via email about being friends and that is fine by me.  Have added you as my friends but I am not sure what to do next, where would I leave any messages for you.  Am still a little confused with all the new things but overall it is excellent.  As I have said the old grey matter doesn't work so well anymore.

original goldfinch
Posted on Monday, 27 July 2009 at 14:31

I remember this time last year thinking the new Osprey season was a long way off, but the thrill of following dear Nethy on google earth really helped the winter along.

When Nethy spent so long in Senegal, I was willing her to cross the border into Guinea Bissau (because I know people in Bissau city).  When her transmissions ceased, I felt so guilty, as if I had sent her there myself!  

This year, I just wish "our three" safe passage through Europe and the Sahara region to wherever they choose in West Africa - and safe return in 2-4 years time!  Meanwhile, we can hope Odin will find his EJ at Loch Garten again for another set of three next year!

Glynis H
Posted on Monday, 27 July 2009 at 14:34

Thanks Richard, for the update, as everyone has said we will be sorry to lose our little family, but Godspeed all to Africa & also the safe return of EJ & Odin next year, when no doubt you will continue to keep us informed & they will continue to keep us on the edge of our seats.

Lesley Gadsden
Posted on Monday, 27 July 2009 at 14:37

Tish have just checked my emails and notification of your blog sent to my profile was there.  How is that done anyone?  Can you respond direct from 'my profile' page cos I can't see anyway and Tish I can't find your previous blog anywhere!!!!!!..........  My dog Ember is a Red Merle border collie and she has just turned 6. She was a rescue dog (unbelievably!) and we've had her since she was 20 mths.  She is a wonderful dog and people always stop to admire her wherever we go.   Anyway back to the nest - all empty at the moment.  Are any of the family in the surrounding branches? x

I keep adding comments all over the place today - even added a comment on Rothes' page and clicked on 'save'  and nothing, just nothing is appearing anywhere!!! :o(

Cirrus
Posted on Monday, 27 July 2009 at 14:41

Once more, do we have snoozing comatoze chicks? Please someone !! The bundles I saw yesterday eventually vanished, - by trick of the light 'cos they were not really there or 'cos feathers had flown the nest. So, there is a similar 'bundle' below the nest post. Is it real? Oh, I guess not. It's too near the edge and not big enough for a young Osprey. Just my need to see an Osprey in the nest I suppose.

Gary
Posted on Monday, 27 July 2009 at 14:46

I hope BigRab doesn't mind but with all this chat about the family leaving I had another look at his video's and this is a link to his last one.

It is the compilation of images and it is so moving. I don't know if we have new people joining all the time and it is a great tribute to EJ and Odin

www.youtube.com/watch

Thanks BigRab!!:)

HeatherB
Posted on Monday, 27 July 2009 at 14:50

Wattle15 - you wrote my comment for me, thankyou !!

Annette in SoCal
Posted on Monday, 27 July 2009 at 14:58

Morning all! 7 a.m. here;3 p.m. there. And we have an empty nest. Thanks Richard for the empty nest info.

ayjay
Posted on Monday, 27 July 2009 at 16:04

As somebody who is terrified of flying I have already suffered through one migration this year.  I managed to hold my breath for twentyfour hours while my daughter flew out to live in Oz right up to the time she reported in that she had arrived safely.

Now I have to go through it all again with our three chicks with the added torture that this one lasts considerably longer.

Life is not fair.

But it can be very enjoyable in between the not fair bits.

Suzi M
Posted on Monday, 27 July 2009 at 16:06

At work, so been dipping in and out throughout the day - but sadly have not seen any members of the family.

Just a wee note to Lesley Gadsen, I would try not to worry about Garten, she has shown us all what fighting spirit she has, despite being the youngest. She is strong and determined. In some ways I am glad she doesn't have a sat tag fitted because it means you can decide for yourself how her migration goes, and for all the time you don't hear anything, you will always have hope, hope that she is out there somewhere safe, warm and with plenty of fish, until such times, as she feels ready to return 'home'

Maureen
Posted on Monday, 27 July 2009 at 16:11

4pm.  Who is that hiding beneath the tree post?   Somehow I think it is Garten and she is 'in a huff' at Richard for upsetting us this morning! Great to see the nest still being used. :o)

Thanks CLAIRE for identifying wee birds on nest yesterday....shall now go to bird identifier for more info. From where I am sitting I thought they were sparrows, until one flew up and I could see the red underside.

You also mentioned that they were juveniles, would the adults have more sense than to poke about an Osprey nest??

Lesley Gadsden
Posted on Monday, 27 July 2009 at 16:32

Have just seen my blog appear twice - really ought to have more faith in IT systems!!!  Have felt really moved reading everyones' latest blogs with memories of last year.  I steeled myself to go back to September 08's updates and read that final one on 30th. and all the blogs of that day.  Felt like it was just happening then I quickly brought myself back to the present and felt teary again thinking about the three girls going off.  They must feel very bewildered when they first set off - having to make all their own decisions and think for themselves with no sibling company and no mum or dad about.  Mentally they have to grow up very quickly. It would be so lovely to think of EJ and Odin flying off together in the sunset....aaaahhhh!!!! and the littleuns meeting up or crossing paths at various points!  Who knows? :o)  x

PaulaP
Posted on Monday, 27 July 2009 at 16:35

16.24

That was very brief, I think it was Mallachie just flew back to the nest, looked round, and flew away again. Maybe she didn't want to be 'home alone'!

Lesley Gadsden
Posted on Monday, 27 July 2009 at 16:36

Don't know if you can see from my avatar pic but Ember has the colouring of an osprey - grey bits, darker bits, browny bits, and rusty coloured bits.  When I've been looking at my lap tap (on the floor) and she is laying in front of it she could almost be one of them! x

paula
Posted on Monday, 27 July 2009 at 16:39

Seems to have been no nest action today so I haven't missed anything being spark out on the sofa all afternoon.

It's not Garten I'll be anxious about; she's a feisty wee thing, a little like myself...but I'm far from wee! It's quiet Mallachie. I don't know why, just a feeling I've got. Reading Roy Dennis' last night brought it home just how many don't make it :'-(

Suzi M
Posted on Monday, 27 July 2009 at 16:39

16:38 Hurray, dipped in at the right time. wonderful image of Garten (I think) sitting on tree, surveying the world around her. Beautiful.

PaulaP
Posted on Monday, 27 July 2009 at 16:39

Is that Garten in the dead tree? I can't see an aerial, so think it must be. And well done to whoever is in charge of the camera! Nice to see her today.

Maureen
Posted on Monday, 27 July 2009 at 16:42

4.40pm.... for all who haven't read this poem, and a reminder for those of us who have. I think it sums up all of our feelings.

The Empty Nest

There in a high branch of a proud old tree,

Lay a nest of babies which no one could see.

Beside the nest, stood Mother, with loving heart,

And Father looking on, guarding, as from the start.

The babies were young and filled with delight,

The ways of the world were beyond their sight.

They were wanting to try their wings of gold,

And enter the new world, ever so bold.

Their parents were hesitant, all so knowing,

Their babies had not finished growing.

But knowing they needed that freedom,

Were willing to let the babies leave them.

The first little bird, so eager her wings,

Thoughts of the new world, losing her strings,

She jumped on the side of the nest so fast,

And flew into the air, was free at last.

The next little bird, so timid, so shy,

She wanted to go but not a goodbye,

She timidly went to the side of the nest,

And flew to the next branch, then passed her test.

The last little bird, the last of the three,

Looked round at her parents, then forward to see,

The new world was opened for her to reach,

By trying her wings, trying what they did teach.

The wind got under the wings of the last,

And she flew through the air, into the world so vast,

Leaving the only home that she had known,

To go into world, the breaking of dawn.

The parents looked on as all of the three,

Found love and happiness and family.

They were proud of the choices that were made,

But their love for their babies never did fade.

The empty nest will always be there,

But visited with love and care,

The empty nest will be a guiding light,

A home for hope and stars so bright.

~Donna O'Briant~

©1997

tish
Posted on Monday, 27 July 2009 at 16:43

LESLEY  poor Ember I hope she doesn't read this.  "Iam a dog Mum not an Osprey"  LOL  I didn't see the migration last year either but I am trying to be really positive and they have so much strength of character all of them and they will be fine!  You must be positive! hug Here's the hankies :))

Carrie
Posted on Monday, 27 July 2009 at 16:44

Thank goodness I am in at last, I have had to re register with a different email address.

Just got back from 2 great weeks at Loch Garten. Went to Richards talk and thoroughly enjoyed it, thankyou Richard. Also was in the centre the day both Garten and Mallachie fledged. Looking forward to the tracking site coming online. You all do a wonderful job.

tish
Posted on Monday, 27 July 2009 at 16:45

It looks like Garten -  feathers blowing in the breeze but no tracker .

paula
Posted on Monday, 27 July 2009 at 16:56

16.54 - ok, spoke too soon. Lovely views of Garten (though she could do with turning round!) sat on a tree. It's very windy at LG.

Wendyb
Posted on Monday, 27 July 2009 at 17:12

17.10 I am so chuffed as I have joined the real world with my own avatar.Nothing to report as empty nest.Super shots of Garten earlier......may favorite girl.

tish
Posted on Monday, 27 July 2009 at 17:13

Oh MAUREEN at this rate there wikll never be a drought!  Says it all.  xxxxx

PaulaP
Posted on Monday, 27 July 2009 at 17:15

Two on the nest now, can't see who they are though.

Lynette
Posted on Monday, 27 July 2009 at 17:16

Hi, its 17.14 and it looks like we've got one of the girls back on the nest, looking round as if to say where areyou all, no, she's flown off again, and another one descends. Now two of them are on the nest, all it needs is for the third one and we have all three, but wait, R, M, or G, has just flown off again.

Pia
Posted on Monday, 27 July 2009 at 17:18

Ellieloo

I don't know if someone already has answered, but you can download Google Earth from here:

google-earth.en.softonic.com

Lynette
Posted on Monday, 27 July 2009 at 17:19

Maureen, thanks for putting poem on blog, I hadn't read it before, but yes, it does sum up our feelings and joy, that three chicks have successfully fledged and will be on their way to Africa shortly. By the way I have Google Earth but am not sure how to track them after they leave LG. Can anyone help!!

wendymac
Posted on Monday, 27 July 2009 at 17:33

17.32 and rothes and mallachie on nest , each trying to yake ownership of a rather large fish. didnt see who brought it in!

ALAN PETRIE
Posted on Monday, 27 July 2009 at 17:34

17:31 and a battle royal going on between Mallachie? and Garten. Each osprey has atalon on the fish and there is much flapping and jumping about. At the moment it looks as though Mallachie is going to win.

jswscot
Posted on Monday, 27 July 2009 at 17:35

One lucky osprey chick has her supper ?Mallachie or Rothes with Garten "waiting in the wings."  Didn't see who brought in the fish, presumably it was Odin.  17:33

Ellieloo
Posted on Monday, 27 July 2009 at 17:36

Brilliant I hadn't realised the camera moved not seen it do that before,

Then two of them landed on the nest, and appeared to be having a bit of an argument,

it looked as though they had their claws locked together

Just not sure who it was. 5.30pm

jswscot
Posted on Monday, 27 July 2009 at 17:37

17:35  Sorry, amend that - it is not Garten "waiting in the wings."  Just seen a satellite tag.  Pru

tish
Posted on Monday, 27 July 2009 at 17:43

Three girls on the nest. Don't know if it's Mallachie or Rothes who has the fish.

Richard you will let us know when the girls catch their own fish won't you??  

 

REPLY: Yes we will, but given the competition between them, they are unlikely to bring any fish they catch back to the nest, but instead will find somewhere secluded to eat it without having to fend off rival sisters.  But if we can confirm that any of them have indeed caught their own fish, then we'll let you know.  -  Richard

Lynette
Posted on Monday, 27 July 2009 at 17:45

It looks like all three girls are on the nest at the moment, what a sight, its lovely. Keep going, not long now to you maiden voyage to far flung places.

Maureen
Posted on Monday, 27 July 2009 at 17:48

The 'Three Supremes' are back from , who knows where :o ). One is eating and two are waiting for leftovers. TISH our three girls, I am sure, wil make it this year........what a start they have had. Wonderful!!!!!!!!

ALAN PETRIE
Posted on Monday, 27 July 2009 at 18:37

18:35 and last osprey leaves the nest. At least we got an hour of nest action. We had better make the most of it.  

Gary
Posted on Monday, 27 July 2009 at 18:53

Wendy, has your avatar changed? It seemed the same on the blog here.

Lynette, last year the Team gave us very detailed and easy to follow instructions on how to put in the tracking information to Google Earth. I'm sure they will do the same this year when the "codes" are ready. They also told us how to make Google Earth update the bird's position automaticall. So I wouldn't worry, we will be told:)

Wendyb
Posted on Monday, 27 July 2009 at 19:28

19.20 GaryS i do hope it has changed from twittering Robin thingy to a very special lighthouse. It's on Lundy Island in the middle of the Bristol Channel.It is a testament to stupidity when it was finished and the fog came down the ships could'nt see the light as it was shrouded in fog.They then went on to build to more one either end of the island.I also think it was designed by a man!!!!!

Barbara Jean
Posted on Monday, 27 July 2009 at 19:31

Thanks Richard for warning us to be prepared for a  life without the Osprey family. I will miss seeing them, but feel very privileged to  have watch this marvel of nature. Seeing the plump and  healthy chicks this year is  fantastic.  I know Garten is not tagged, but neither are EJ nor Odin. It makes the Spring suspense greater waiting for their return.  LOL  Has anyone  who  is near LG considered organizing a weekend scouting  event to see if they see any of the  offspring from prior years?  If a group took binoculars and cameras and  searched the entire  LG preserve they may be able to send back  pictures of sightings.  Last year someone  using Google Earth tracked down  Deshar and took a picture  of him. When  he left he had not yet learned to fish. The picture showed a full crop so  clearly he had learn to fish.  It was  comforting to know that.

Margobird
Posted on Monday, 27 July 2009 at 19:31

Simon what a lovely post you put on.  Yes we do have to remember all that has happened and the fact that we have 3 lovely healthy girls who could not have had a better start to life.  This family haved just been so special though and really hope EJ returns with Odin next year.

Wendyb
Posted on Monday, 27 July 2009 at 19:53

20.00 Garys total misey and back to square one it's not there ... boo hoo!!

Wendyb
Posted on Monday, 27 July 2009 at 19:54

Whoops i meant misery... Simon's on the case.

Gary
Posted on Monday, 27 July 2009 at 20:41

Simon-Sorry, I meant to say that was such a positive , upbeat post:) You are right. It has been almost a perfect "season" and we should all "rejoice" in that:)))

Wendy, thanks I can see the lighthouse. Very nice.

There are SO many things i could say to your last comment but I'm sure Simon has already come up with some LOL (and my wife is looking over my shoulder so I have suddenly lost my nerve!

Barbara Jean
Posted on Monday, 27 July 2009 at 21:20

9:15 Every time I have checked the nest today some one is eating LOL   EJ and Odin are keeping the table full "at all times" so the girls an just fly to the nest when they are hungry. They are  cetainly getting spoiled.

Right now EJ is feeding one chick and another  chick has  her own fish.  

Maureen
Posted on Monday, 27 July 2009 at 21:35

9.30pm.   What a lovely sight four 'girls' on the nest.......EJ feeding Garten, Rothes eating and Mallachie just waiting her turn. It is really lovely to see them all together and no squabbles from the wee big ones!!!

I am going to enjoy every minute that I see them.

Barbara Jean
Posted on Monday, 27 July 2009 at 22:20

10:00 The girls are full and left the nest. EJ is  left to finish  the fish.  :)  We can watch them on the Web Cam and  follow them with  GPS tags, but one thing we can not know is  how they feel about events. Is EJ  delighted  with  how this season turned out?  I know birds do have emotions. My friend's brother has a  Great Grey Parrot  named Whoop . It talks and  Jack taught him to say "Hi Jack" when he came home from work. A couple of years  ago Jack  had to leave for 6 months with his job. My friend Vicki took the  bird to her house while Jack was gone.  She kept his cage in  her spare room. The day Jack came  home he  immediately  went to Vicki's to get his parrot. The minute  he walked in the door Whoop couldn't see him but he heard him and started  yelling "Hi Jack Hi Jack" !!  The bird was  very excited to see Jack. He took Whoop out of his cage, laid on the floor and  let Whoop walked all over him  as he shouted  "Hi Jack, Hi Jack!"  Jack and Whoop have a very special relationship.

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