DAILY UPDATE (LG nest) Wednesday 13 June 2012

EJ and the chicks are (comparatively) restful on the nest, though there has been no fish since 1647hr yesterday.

Chicky snoring going on :-)

One of the chicks is wide awake at the moment and has been chirruping for a few minutes. Poor EJ....not getting much rest.:(

Here are some stats from the DU for June 15, 2010 and   Odin cut  down on  the fish deliveries. Only 3 fish delivered that day 

Titch went to sleep hungry 

http:/www.rspb.org.uk/community/placestovisit/lochgartenospreys/f/915/p/17337/120643.aspx#120643

However he  made is all time record on June 19, 2010 of 9 fish in one day 

http:/www.rspb.org.uk/community/placestovisit/lochgartenospreys/f/915/p/17550/122983.aspx#122983

So maybe Odin  is just tired today or having  trouble catching fish 

I have tried and tried and I can't get rid of the double  links above sorry!!

Here are the stats on EJ 's fishing dates for 2008 & 2009 from the Main blog 

EJ rewrites the textbooks…again!

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claire foot 

22 Jun 2009 4:39 PM 

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Last year, we were shocked on 17 June when EJ disappeared from view and returned a couple of hours later with a fish. All the textbooks say that the female does not start to fish again until the chicks have fledged and yet here was EJ collecting fish for the chicks a full 33 days before Nethy took her maiden voyage.

So, when EJ was out of sight for a couple of hours yesterday lunchtime and then again in the evening... we had our suspicions as to what she might be up to! Our suspicions were correct, and EJ returned with a fish!

In 2008, when EJ went fishing, it was clear that Orange VS was not bringing in enough fish to sustain the brood and of those that he was bringing in, he was definitely eating more than his fair share.

In 2009, the chicks are looking amazing, Odin is bringing in an amazing amount of fish, plenty for three chicks, so why did EJ go fishing? I guess we'll never know, maybe she was just bored; she has, after all, been on or around the nest constantly since Odin arrived on 3 April! Maybe it has become learned, pre-emptive behaviour after what happened last year.

One thing is for sure, each year EJ does something to surprise us and rewrite the osprey manuals, whether it is fishing before fledging or laying a whole second clutch as she did in 2007.

I have made a chart of fish deliveries for 13-21 June, comparing Orange VS and Odin's deliveries, as well as EJ in 2008 and 2009. Please remember that not only were many of Orange VS' fish smaller than those that Odin is delivering, he also often ate much more than his fair share, bringing the tail end (quite literally!) to the nest.

	Orange VS   (2008)	Odin (2009)	EJ (2008)	EJ (2009)
13 June	4	6
14 June	2	9
15 June	4	4
16 June	4	7
17 June	2	7	1
18 June	4	5	1
19 June	4	6
20 June	4	6	2
21 June	4	6		1
Total	32	56	4	1

 

As I type, Odin has just delivered the fourth fish of the day. So far, EJ has remained firmly at the nest today, as the weather has been rather inclement.

We await the next fish... but who will deliver it?

PS - Richard says 'Thanks' to Diana for the card and donation.

Tiger's stats for the dates of  EJ's first fishing  trips

It seems that EJ first went fishing

2008  17 June

2009  21 June

2010  27 June

June 17th 2008 her mate was  OVS who was a poor provider 

2009 & 2010 Odin was the father 

That's great information, Barbara - very helpful for creating context. We will wait and see what happens next at Loch Garten. Thanks for going and looking it all up.

Yes cc -Cold hard facts beat  my speculations any day LOL

It looks like the last week of June is EJ's  window for  her first fishing trip 

Here is poor EJ patiently trying to rest with a rather chirpy chick

Thanks for starting the new thread, Scylla.  Thanks for passing on the fishing stats, Barbara.  Ospreytastic work :-)

EJ looks quite restful at the moment.  Although I think one of the GEMs is starting to wake up.

Barbara

It looks like the last week of June is EJ's  window for  her first fishing trip 

We are seeing Odin bring in 7 or 8 and I wouldn't assume it is the norm. They may be hungry one day but they'll have enough as long as it isn't days without any food, in which case dehydration would be the concern.

I'm off to bed now, so nite nite all and happy watching:)

Night night, Mims.  Have a peaceful roost :-)

CC

Barbara

It looks like the last week of June is EJ's  window for  her first fishing trip 

Yes - that makes it 2 weeks from now unless the fish supply is low from Odin, in which case she might go out a few days earlier. I think another thing that emerges is that chicks are fine with a delivery of 4-5 fish/day on average.

We are seeing Odin bring in 7 or 8 and I wouldn't assume it is the norm. They may be hungry one day but they'll have enough as long as it isn't days without any food, in which case dehydration would be the concern.

I did see #3 get 2 small  bites of the  third fish so he got  some fluids. #3 is not as fat as the others so he really needs to eat until  he is full